Cat in the Hat 9

Mon Jul 9 19:11:33 UTC 2007

To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.eduSubject: RE: [sw-l] Cat in the Hat 9From: CWren at doe.k12.ga.usDate: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:35:32 -0400
Kelly Jo, some of the things I've written
are based on the -picture- in the book, not necessarily what the words
say, or what I think is logical.  (A cat in a hat with two pet Things
flying kites inside a house?  Come on...   ::smile::  Hey, I never said Dr. Seuss was logical!  I was just trying to write what I saw on the video . . .)  In
fact the balancing of the fish and boat on the L hand is NOT what I signed
in the video, but it IS what is pictured in the book, and what I meant
to sign.  And I can balance things on an L hand-- I just now did it
with two post it note pads...  ::smile::  Ah, I understand!  I remember now, that he did have an "L" hand in the
book (I don't have a copy of it with me to refer to, so I didn't even
think about that).  Using the "L" hand isn't the problem; my problem was the angle of the hand, or more precisely, the angle of the finger.  Now that I realize you'd meant to follow
the pictures, I'm going to have to find a copy of the book to remind me how exactly the cat was balancing them.  Not a problem, I just needed to know
that.  I'll revise my rewrite after I have a chance to look at the book.  Incidentally, he wasn't balancing the fish on his thumb, was he?  I had real trouble reading the fish balancing. . . there was a Right-hand arrow but I couldn't move my right hand into that position, and then it looked like the contact symbol was on the thumb . . . I watched that segment several times before I decided on how I would write it!
As for the angle of the hands for the
tray...  go get a tray and put a glass of milk on it...  now
bend over like you're going to balance it on your foot...  What angle
are your hands at?  Its hard to see in the video, I have gone frame
by frame thru that section multiple times and can't see it clearly, but
that is the angle I am trying to write, probably unsuccessfully.  I
think the wrist flex/rotation thing has shaken my confidence.  I -thought-
I knew what I was doing!  It wouldn't be so hard if I used a different
handshape, a flat O maybe...  its the A handshape that makes it difficult.

I think it's difficult no matter what . . . but I don't think I'd have my HANDS at much of an angle, because I'd want to keep the tray as parallel to the floor as possible.  Yes ...  I just tried the experiment with my lap desk as the tray (not that I could balance it on my foot anyway; I put my foot up on a chair so I wouldn't fall over! ::smile::), and my hands were definitely parallel to the floor and with each other; half-and-half from the Top View.  (My WRISTS definitely bend because my ARMS are at an angle, but I keep my HANDS as parallel to the floor plane as I possibly can.)  I'll see if I can get someone to get a picture of what I mean.  It probably won't be until later tonight, though.  The cat isn't pictured while putting the tray on his foot, is he?KJcherie---------------------------------
Cherie Wren
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Cave Spring, GA 30124
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RE: [sw-l] Cat in the Hat 9

Hi Cherie & all -
I haven't had any time for editing lately, but I thought I'd take a stab
at writing this one.  I've written my take on the part from "fish"
to balancing the tray on the foot.  I made a couple of minor changes
to some of the other signs, too.  For the foot motion, I've written
the hip line and the raised right leg with the foot on the end without
a movement symbol; and I changed the movement to two short double-stemmed
arrows because I didn't see much motion when you put the tray down (plus
it's easier to place the smaller arrows when there's so much going on).
 I also changed the orientation of the handshapes holding the tray
because it looked on the video like your hands were pretty close to straight
horizontal there.  It's in SignPuddle as "KJ - Cat in the Hat
9"; you can see the other changes there in "balancing the fishbowl",
"and", and "balancing the ship".

On the subject of the "balancing" signs, let me explain why I
made the handshapes vertical even if your hands weren't exactly in that
position.  It's because they are "balancing" signs, and
you can't balance something on a diagonal finger.  So, even if you
couldn't make your hands vertical as you reached across your body (and
I thought you came pretty close), I felt them to be more vertical than
diagonal.

I think that's all I have to say about that . . . my version of "and"
is just an alternative suggestion.  Either way works . . .
KJ

To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: [sw-l] Cat in the Hat 9
From: CWren at doe.k12.ga.us
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:52:48 -0400

 A major challenge in this one--  When the cat says he can hold the
milk on a dish, I pick up my right foot, and through constructed action,
place the tray with the milk on the foot, while I balance on the other
one.  In the signwriting, I showed the torso movement, but not the
foot movement, cuz I don't know how....  Does it need to be there?
 There are several spots where torso action is important, and I am
not sure I'm doing it correctly... 

I also had a devil of a time with the handshape/orientation for the tray
itself.  It doesn't look right any way I tried it.  The palms
are facing each other, thumbs forward away from the body, knuckles aiming
mostly toward the ground and forward.

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Cherie Wren
GSD Staff Interpreter
232 Perry Farm Rd
Cave Spring, GA 30124
706-777-2328
706-766-0766 Cell

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