Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)

Adam Frost icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM
Tue May 1 20:18:38 UTC 2007

All vaild points. I am just working with what we've got. :-)



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From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:07:27 
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Subject: Re: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)

Adam Frost wrote: "And Charles, to get the arms, what I did was I got the regular joined upper arm and forearm, and added another forearm to make it longer to fit all of the symbols." 
Charles Queries: 
But how is it distinguished, easily, in the coding, in the keyboard?  
The arm does not have two elbows, it has one, and there is no way to assemble it from the pieces given without knowing that the short piece is the piece from the shoulder down, and the long piece is the forearm.   
And if all of them can rotate independently, which the rotate key shows, then I'm not sure how to sort them in a dictionary or look up "ARM" as a place holder if you have accidentally chosen the short one's shoulder end to connect to the long one's wrist end.  In rotation they are identical in appearance. 
If one looks at the actual coding, then your "arm with extension" would be two distinct characters that happen to coincide, but with a second elbow end floating somewhere.  
In handwriting, you can't make that mistake, but if you are assembling with a mouse, what does one do to ensure that you have not accidentally put the shoulder on backwards? 

Adam Frost <adam at> wrote: The only problems that I have with the original spelling is 1)The contact symbols break the point of contact, and 2)The I handshape is at an awkward position being pinky down and palm out. Having seen Kelly Jo sign her name to me, I would write the fingerspelling KJ on the arm with a brush on top of the J to say that the J brushes the arm. I didn't place a star on top of the K, but it could have been put there if the touch was really important. I personally think that using the fingerspelling gives ease to reading because the fingerspelling are fairly standard in SW and that is what this is. 

On 5/1/07, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at <mailto:chazzer3332000 at> > wrote: I don't seem to be able to get big enough upper arms and forearms in the Sign Puddle that are clearly identified as upper arms and forearms by the click and point method.  How does this look.  This way one knows where the action is happening by the arm locator, and then the handshape moves as appropriate.  



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