kjoanne403 at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu May 10 03:45:13 UTC 2007
It's a reaction against SEE... probably, if SEE hadn't been forced on the
Deaf community by hearing educators, initialized signs would be more
accepted. As it is, there was a huge movement not very long ago to get rid
of as many initialized signs as possible and replace them either with a
different sign or fingerspelling. For example, I originally learned to sign
LIVE with two L-hands, but now ASL users prefer A-hands. CAR, TRUCK, VAN
and BUS were all initialized signs when I first learned them - and
interestingly enough, the native ASL-signing child I interpreted for last
year used these same initialized signs - but for many adults, the preferred
sign for CAR, TRUCK and VAN is a mime of holding a steering wheel, and BUS
is fingerspelled with a little bounce toward the dominant side of the body.
All part of natural language development...
>From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Signs Found
>Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 18:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
>Odd that fingerspelling - which is tied directly to English, would be
>preferred to inital + calendar, which is much more of mime.
>Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote: You are right that the ASL
>Community prefers the abbreviations over these signs. Whether they started
>before SEE came about as regular ASL signs or not, they have been regarded
>as SEE signs and rejected as such. People will still use them, but it is
>not looked upon positively.
>From: "K.J. Boal"
>Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 18:52:47
>To:sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: RE: [sw-l] Signs Found
>Yes, I've seen all the months signed that way... as a matter of fact, I
>first learned to sign them that way, and started using the more common
>fingerspelled abbreviations later. I saw them again in a Signing Exact
>English dictionary a couple of years ago, too. I believe the ASL community
>prefers the fingerspelled abbreviations, though.
> >From: "Charles Butler"
> >Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >Subject: [sw-l] Signs Found
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT)
> >I found these signs in an old sign textbook published in the early 1920s
> >a second-hand bookstore in Baltimore. Has anyone ever seen these signs
> >Charles Butler
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