question on sign notation, small arrow heads

[Valerie Sutton]

Hi Charles -

On May 3, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
> I guess for me, I'd write it with half/hands, because then the  
> fingers point toward each other.  I tend, and maybe I learned it  
> wrong, to put the closing arrow with the point of closure at the  
> end point, so my "close hands" may be the wrong shape.  I wrote  
> both hand positions because it didn't look like a standard "3" to  
> me but one with the thumb pointing out.

The signer's hands are beautiful fingers and long, and you are right  
that they could easily be interpreted with the thumb forward like  
that...it could be written with several palm facing interpretations  
too ;-))

>
>
> It is awkward to follow the rules absolutely when the hands don't  
> show up as pointing toward each other if you show them as palm up  
> and palm down.  I tend to want to show the palm facing as the back  
> of the palms, not the fingers, so that if it's pointing down, then  
> the top half of the square would be black not the left side of the  
> square.

Sure...the questions is about the finger movements...not the hand  
positions...you are right ;-)

>
> If we take away the first handshapes, and just concentrate on the  
> closure point, it might work.
>
> Charles
>
> estomac-C
>
>
>
> Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote: SignWriting List
> May 3, 2007
>
> Thank you, Anny for this question. I am so happy there is a video
> link to see the sign!
>
> And once again, not an easy sign to write at all ;-))
>
> Of course, that is why you are asking the question to begin with - ha!
>
> I hope others will look at the video too, and write the way they
> would write it ...not just me...
>
> I need all of your help too...the feedback is invaluable for all of
> us...;-))
>
> I will prepare my version, and I hope others will too...
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
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> On May 3, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>
> dear Val,
>
> I' m not sure about how to write the movement of the sign /ESTOMAC/
>
> http://www.pisourd.ch/index.php?theme=dicocomplet --->
> estomac (stomach)....
>
> how should one position the small arrows heads... in the lessons (on
> the net) the arrow pointing down means closing... and the arrow
> pointing up means opening..... but I'm not sure it's used this way !!
>
> can you tell me if the way I wrote this sign is correct.... (if I  
> follow the lessons... the small arrow heads on top point down
> for closing) but i'd rather write it
>
> and
>
> could you explain the arrow heads... and give some example on when to
> use which...
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Anny
>
>
> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
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