Birthday Party Page 4

[Valerie Sutton]

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November 2, 2007

Hello Stefan and Adam -
Put the blame on me that I did not explain myself correctly, Stefan.  
I was writing too fast and Adam was correct...

I believe this is how the fist looks when signing this sign...is this  
correct, Adam?

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For me, I think of the fist representing the ice cream itself sitting  
in the cone, rather than the fist holding the cone....  smile

Val ;-)


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On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Adam Frost wrote:

> I was refering to etymology, so we are both right. I know, we seem  
> to contridict each other. :-)
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Stefan W?hrmann"
> 	<stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de>
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:51:46
> To:"'SignWriting List'" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: AW: [sw-l] Birthday Party Page 4
>
>
> Hi Valerie, Adam ; Kelly and sw-list
>
> .... this is fun!
>
> Adam says: "... but this sign comes from the pantomime eating ice  
> cream
> inside an ice cream cone." and
>
> Val says: "  ....it is a standardized sign that does not
> mimic holding a cone.."
>
> hm ... smile -
>
> All I had in mind is that this is a wonderful opportunity to check  
> the own
> understanding on how to write the fist. If you visualise the cone  
> in your
> hand it should be hold in a vertical postion. Opening the fist  
> would lead to
> a flat hand fingers pointing to the side -
>
> On the other hand - Valerie -
>
> I am not the one in charge to discuss ASL - signs - smile - (I  
> would never
> dare - hahaha)
>
> But I love to understand und just because anything has been  
> documented for
> decades in a given way  that does not mean that we cannot try to  
> understand
> the idea behind it. Sometimes things change.
>
> In this case "ice cream" I followed Adams idea of performing in  
> pantomime
> the holding of an ice cone.
>
> It is much easier though to perform the sign fluently in the  
> "standardized"
> way - and it should even be possible to eat your ice cream in this  
> position
> if there is only a little bit icecream left in the cone so that you  
> stick
> your tongue far out - smile! - and lower the cone to the horizontal  
> level
> towards the mouth.
>
> Stefan ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von  
> Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Freitag, 2. November 2007 16:01
> An: icemandeaf at gmail.com; SignWriting List
> Betreff: [sw-l] Birthday Party Page 4
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
>> I'm not sure what you are saying, but this sign comes from the
>> pantomime eating ice cream inside an ice cream cone. I wrote it the
>> way I did because the hand is more parallel to the wal than the
>> floor. I checked my writing with other writing I have and they all
>> have it the same way. So, I am curious what you were thinking of
>> because I can't figure it out.
>
> Yes. The sign for ICE CREAM in ASL has the palm facing parallel to
> the wall...if you straighten your hand up to a flat hand, the flat
> hand is parallel to the wall and then you bend the fist so that it is
> still parallel to the wall....it is a standardized sign that does not
> mimic holding a cone...it is just signed that way all over the  
> US...;-))
>
>
>
>
>
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