problem with signpuddle 1.5

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
November 12, 2007

Hello Kathleen and Sara!

Thank you for re-joining the new SignWriting List....Welcome back...;-)

When our List crashed back in July 2007, we were all required to re- 
join the new List...There are still older members of the List who  
still probably don't realize they need to re-join, even though I have  
tried to write to everyone...

So tell your friends, if you know anyone else who might not realize...

So let me answer your questions one by one...and then I hope Steve  
can also answer some of your questions...

And thanks, Adam, for your info too...


  Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
> yes news from Belgium (the Flemish side ;)!!
> Don't mind the government issues in Belgium at the moment. I will  
> sort itself out ;)

I am not very educated to the current issues...Would you like to tell  
us about the latest? What is happening in Belgium recently, and at  
Kasterlinden School?  I know you have both a Flemish Sign Language  
and a French-Belgian Sign Language...at least we have two separate  
SignPuddles for you ;-))

I also plan to give you a Literature Puddle soon, so you can add your  
stories written in SignText to the Online Literature Library like  
other countries are doing now...

Have you seen for example, the ASL Literature Puddle, or the German  
or Norwegian? Your Flemish stories could be written like that  
online...I will try to make the Literature Puddle for you shortly...


> Now for my question.
> One fine evening I was working with Signpuddle. It's listed in my  
> favourites. So to my surprise I saw that the layout was different.  
> It looks good, but then I tryed to translate a sentence into VGT.

Yes. Back in March, 2007, we changed over to the new SignPuddle 1.5.

But some people had bookmarked the old SignPuddle 1.0, and continued  
to use the old one, not realizing we had switched over to new  
software...

A week or 10 days ago, we took the old SignPuddle 1.0 down, since we  
had given everyone over 6 months to make the transition to the new  
software...

I am sorry you did not realize that SignPuddle had changed, but I am  
very glad you are learning SignPuddle 1.5 now, which is our future...



> No luck. Nothing happens. (I hit translate and the screen does not  
> change)
> I mailed Val about this.
> The funny thing is in 'firefox' it does work, but not in internet  
> explorer.

Yes. I assumed you knew that SignPuddle was designed for Firefox and  
that everyone is supposed to use Firefox when using SignPuddle...

So it wasn't until you showed me a screen capture of your screen,  
that I could see you were using Internet Explorer. Then I went over  
to a Windows XP laptop I have and tested it in Internet Explorer and  
I noticed immediately the problem you were having...the Translate  
Feature and the Login feature are not working in Internet Explorer.

Since we tell everyone to use Firefox I hadn't realized the problem  
in Internet Explorer myself...

So just use Firefox like all the rest of us, and your problems are  
solved...


> Does anyone have an explanation for this?

Yes. SignPuddle was designed for the Firefox browser, not Internet  
Explorer.

SignPuddle fortunately seems to work ok in other browsers such as  
Netscape, Opera, Safari and Camino, but not Internet Explorer...

Why? It is a programming issue. Steve is overloaded with jobs right  
now for new features in SignPuddle, so Internet Explorer has to wait  
a little...of course someday it would be nice to get it to work  
there, but it means money and time to program it specially to  
work...and since we tell everyone to use Firefox in our literature,  
we hope people realize...


> Or can anyone help me out. Not everyone at my school has firefox  
> and I'm already happy they try to use the signpuddle, so asking  
> them to install all kinds of things is a big step for some teachers.

That is true. I understand that issue. On the other hand, Firefox is  
free and easy to download and install, if your school allows your  
teachers to install it.


> Does anyone have the website to download firefox in worst case  
> scenario?

Yes. Go to this web page to download the free Firefox:

Download Firefox
http://www.mozilla.com


>
> Also what I notice is that it used to go pretty fast, translating a  
> sentence. Now we first have to select each sign before we get the  
> sentence. But maybe that's because it's new. I'll find out the  
> advantages when I can really start working with it ;)

It is actually faster now. It is just an adjustment to get used to  
the new Translate feature...

I will write with some of the advantages next message...

Val ;-)




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