AW: [sw-l] SignWriting game from France... 1/2 point.

Tue Oct 23 13:10:32 UTC 2007

Top left or the second row.  My error.  I think of it as kind of the 1/4 point, not half, but 1/4 would project a better feel. 

Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de> wrote:        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                 
  Hi Adam and Charles, Valerie and friends

  this sign for „urinate“ made me think again about hard to read (understand) handshapes. 

  The graphic shows the given hand shape but in the top row there are two alternatives – benaeth you find right hands – 

  Which one in the upper line is meant to show the right hand – smile - ? 

  Stefan ;-)

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Adam Frost
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2007 04:37
An: SignWriting List
Betreff: Re: [sw-l] SignWriting game from France...

  I meant about the knuckle break in the hand. 

  Adam

  -----Original Message-----
  From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>

  Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:34:56 
  To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignWriting game from France...

  This isn't top view.  This is the NOSE line, not the top view line.  The hand faces the nose and then twists on the wrist a quarter turn.

  Charles

  Adam Frost <adam at frostvillage.com> wrote: Shouldn't this be front view rather than top view?

  Adam

  On 10/22/07, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com  <mailto:chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> > wrote:He may need "pee" and "shit".  The French language (and I have noticed, Portuguese, are much less body shy than English.  ASL has signs for both and uses them freely.  I noticed in Brazilian grammar schools that showing cartoons for hygiene was much less prudish than American English.  "Toilet" doesn't cover all the shades of meaning he needs.  "Nao urine do chao" :(don't pee on the floor)  was in almost all of the college and high school restrooms.  

   <http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=03-05-001-01-01-01,89,25,01-03-019-01-04-01,133,28,02-01-001-01-01-01,109,37,02-03-001-04-01-03,139,67,>  
  pee
  piss, urinate
  to urinate, expel urine. 
   <http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=01-03-019-01-04-01&color=999999&size=.7>  
   <http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=03-05-001-01-01-01&color=999999&size=.7> 

   <http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/symbol.php?sss=02-03-001-04-01-03&color=999999&size=.7> 
  Source: Charles Butler 
  Modified: October 22, 2007 15:50

  Charles Butler

  Valerie Sutton < signwriting at mac.com <mailto:signwriting at mac.com> > wrote: SignWriting List
  October 22, 2007

  Hello everyone -
  As you know I live in San Diego, and San Diego has wild fires right 
  now. My home is safe at the moment, but I do have some friends 
  staying with us who had to evacuate their home...we are watching TV 
  to see if their home will burn or not...it is an incredible 
  experience which is a repeat of the Cedar fires back in 2003...when 
  we went through something similar...

  Since I work out of my home, I am thinking through what hard drives 
  to take with me if we have to evacuate too...but I doubt that will be 
  necessary...The air is thick with smoke and raining ashes...

  Anyway, thank you, Yaelle, for your message below...

  Again, I need to ask you...what do you mean by English signwritings? 
  British Sign Language, or Australian Sign Language, or American Sign 
  Language?...all are different signed languages located in English- 
  speaking countries...

  If you mean American Sign Language, then look under TOILET in the ASL 
  SignPuddle...that might be the sign you are looking for...or BATHROOM 
  maybe...

  Val ;-)

  On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Yaëlle wrote:

  > Yes Val, thank you for your indications
  > 
  > I found most of the signwritings, *I lack only WEE WEE *for now. Is 
  > there an equivalent I dont know in English. I am very bad at 
  > informatics... sorry !! I'll show you the entire game *English/ 
  > signwritings *and the other languages as soon as thoses are finished. 
  > 
  > Many blessings, to You and your Earth Team !!
  > Yaelle:)
  > 

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