spelling question
Adam Frost
icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 21 15:24:10 UTC 2008
I'm so sorry. I thought you were referring to the A and B in Stefan's email. After reading your recent email, I realized that you were referring to two different spelling from the US SignPuddle and the Quebec SignPuddle. The one in the US SignPuddle is written correctly following all rules. The left hand starts out and then moves down-back-up-forward two times. The right hand starts closer to the body and moves up-forward-down-back two times. As it is written in the Quebec SignPuddle right now, it reads as the left hand starting out moving up-back-down-forward two times and the right hand starting close to the body moving up-forward-down-back two times. This is difficult for me to perform because the hands are moving in different directions. If that is how bike is signed (although it is difficult to do), then it is spelled correctly following all the rules. However, I just wanted to make clear that these two writings are not the same. The writing in the US SignPuddle has the!
left hand move starting down whereas the Quebec SignPuddle has the left hand move starting up which is hard to do when the right hand is also moving up but going forward while the left is going back. I hope this clarifies Sorry for the confusion.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:49:48
To:icemandeaf at gmail.com, SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
Hello Adam,
Thank you very much for your answer.
I read a sign "BIKE" in the US signpuddle. BIKE in the US signpuddle is
the same as BIKE (A). I will write a sgin BIKE (B) in the Quebec
signpuddle. If I may be wrong, could you explain it to me?
Thumb up!!!
André
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Frost" <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
To: "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
> The two are the same in how they are read, but (B) is written correctly.
> They both read with the right hand moves up-forward-down-back and the left
> hand moves down-back-up-forward. The reason (A) isn't correct is because
> the right arrow isn't rotated right because the thick part isn't one the
> outside.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gagnon et Thibeault" <atg at videotron.ca>
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:54:35
> To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
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>
> Hello Adam,
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> Thank you for your answer.
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> BIKE (A)
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> You will see a diagram above (BIKE (A)). You mean that the right hand
> moves up-forward-down-back and the left hand moves down-back-up-forward.
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> You will see a diagram below (BIKE (B)). You mean that the right hand
> moves up-forward-down-back and the left hand moves up-back-down-forward.
>
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> BIKE (B)
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> Am I right?
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> Regards,
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>
> André
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Frost
> To: SignWriting List
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
>
>
> Hello André,
>
> You read the diagram that you attached correctly. The left hand would
> move up-back-down-forward and the right would move up-forward-back-down. I
> don't know about you, but I have a very hard time doing that. Ha! So to
> make it so that the arrows follow how I move my hands when I sign BIKE, I
> would rotate the left arrow so that it would read down-back-up-forward. I
> hope that this help you. You can look in SignPuddle for how BIKE is
> written by clicking on this link. Bike in US SignPuddle
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Val and everyone,
>
>
>
> You will see the diagram below (BIKE). The right arrowhead
> moves up-forward-down-back two times while the left arrowhead moves
> down-back-up-forward two times. But, Stefan gave the two signs (SIGN or
> BIKE). You will see the attached diagram. The right arrowhead moves
> up-forward-down-back two times while the left arrowhead moves
> up-back-down-forward. Two times.
>
>
>
> I would like to ask Adam or Stuart. Is the sign "BIKE" a
> diagram below or Stefan's diagram? Because I need to understand what the
> right and left arrowheads move.
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> BIKE
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> Regards,
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> André
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Wöhrmann
> To: 'SignWriting List'
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:20 AM
> Subject: [sw-l] spelling question
>
>
> Hi Valerie and sw-list,
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>
> preparing some new worksheets for my students I happened to realize
> that there are many different options to write the movement we need in
> Germany for the signs of sign or bike ...
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> Do you prefer any of these as kind of "best Gestalt"?
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> I know it is a matter of feeling – but perhaps of experience as well
> ... just curious ...
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> All the best Stefan ;-)
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