spelling question

[Adam Frost]

I'm glad I didn't confuse you for too long. :-) Yes, it is a PAH!! moment. :-)

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:03:35 
To:icemandeaf at gmail.com, SW List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question


Hello Adam,

    PAH!!!  HAHA

    Rethank you very much for your excellent explanation.

    LSQ "BIKE"is the same as ASL "BIKE".

    Hand waving

André


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Frost" <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
To: "Gagnon et Thibeault" <atg at videotron.ca>; "SW List" 
<sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question


> I'm so sorry. I thought you were referring to the A and B in Stefan's 
> email. After reading your recent email, I realized that you were referring 
> to two different spelling from the US SignPuddle and the Quebec 
> SignPuddle. The one in the US SignPuddle is written correctly following 
> all rules. The left hand starts out and then moves down-back-up-forward 
> two times. The right hand starts closer to the body and moves 
> up-forward-down-back two times. As it is written in the Quebec SignPuddle 
> right now, it reads as the left hand starting out moving 
> up-back-down-forward two times and the right hand starting close to the 
> body moving up-forward-down-back two times. This is difficult for me to 
> perform because the hands are moving in different directions. If that is 
> how bike is signed (although it is difficult to do), then it is spelled 
> correctly following all the rules. However, I just wanted to make clear 
> that these two writings are not the same. The writing in the US SignPuddle 
> has the left hand move starting down whereas the Quebec SignPuddle has the 
> left hand move starting up which is hard to do when the right hand is also 
> moving up but going forward while the left is going back. I hope this 
> clarifies Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:49:48
> To:icemandeaf at gmail.com, SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
>
>
> Hello Adam,
>
>    Thank you very much for your answer.
>
>    I read a sign "BIKE" in the US signpuddle.  BIKE in the US signpuddle 
> is
> the same as BIKE (A).   I will write a sgin BIKE (B) in the Quebec
> signpuddle.   If I may be wrong, could you explain it to me?
>
> Thumb up!!!
>
> André
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Adam Frost" <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
> To: "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
>
>
>> The two are the same in how they are read, but (B) is written correctly.
>> They both read with the right hand moves up-forward-down-back and the 
>> left
>> hand moves down-back-up-forward. The reason (A) isn't correct is because
>> the right arrow isn't rotated right because the thick part isn't one the
>> outside.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Gagnon et Thibeault" <atg at videotron.ca>
>>
>> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:54:35
>> To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
>>
>>
>> Hello Adam,
>>
>>
>>
>>    Thank you for your answer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BIKE (A)
>>
>>
>>
>> You will see a diagram above (BIKE (A)).  You mean  that the right  hand
>> moves  up-forward-down-back and the left hand moves down-back-up-forward.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You will see a diagram below (BIKE (B)).  You mean that the right hand
>> moves up-forward-down-back and  the left hand moves 
>> up-back-down-forward.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BIKE (B)
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I right?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> André
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Adam Frost
>>  To: SignWriting List
>>  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:17 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [sw-l] spelling question
>>
>>
>>  Hello André,
>>
>>  You read the diagram that you attached correctly. The left hand would
>> move up-back-down-forward and the right would move up-forward-back-down. 
>> I
>> don't know about you, but I have a very hard time doing that. Ha! So to
>> make it so that the arrows follow how I move my hands when I sign BIKE, I
>> would rotate the left arrow so that it would read down-back-up-forward. I
>> hope that this help you. You can look in SignPuddle for how BIKE is
>> written by clicking on this link. Bike in US SignPuddle
>>
>>  Adam
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    Hi Val and  everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>>                You will see the diagram below (BIKE).  The right 
>> arrowhead
>> moves  up-forward-down-back two times while the left arrowhead moves
>> down-back-up-forward two times.   But, Stefan  gave the two signs (SIGN 
>> or
>> BIKE).  You will see the attached diagram.   The right  arrowhead moves
>> up-forward-down-back two times while the left arrowhead moves
>> up-back-down-forward. Two times.
>>
>>
>>
>>                I would like to ask Adam or Stuart.  Is the sign "BIKE" a
>> diagram below or Stefan's diagram?   Because I need to understand what 
>> the
>> right and left arrowheads move.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    BIKE
>>
>>
>>
>>    Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>    André
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>>      From: Stefan Wöhrmann
>>      To: 'SignWriting List'
>>      Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:20 AM
>>      Subject: [sw-l] spelling question
>>
>>
>>      Hi Valerie and sw-list,
>>
>>
>>
>>      preparing some new worksheets for my students I happened to realize
>> that there are many different options to write the movement we need in
>> Germany for the signs of sign or bike ...
>>
>>
>>
>>      Do you prefer any of these as kind of "best Gestalt"?
>>
>>
>>
>>      I know it is a matter of feeling – but perhaps of experience as well
>> ... just curious ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      All the best  Stefan ;-)
>>
>>
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