Back on the list?

Adam Frost icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 25 23:25:49 UTC 2008

Oh, I never left. :-) I just went quiet partly because of school starting at CSUN and work restarting at the community college. The other part was, as some of you may recall, I was ill for four days (and I rarely get ill and it is even more rare for it to last longer than a day). So since I am better and have gotten used to the new schedule, I have been able to respond to the messages on the list without being too far behind in the comments. :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Sutton <sutton at>

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:16:52 
To:List SignWriting <sw-l at>
Cc:Frost Adam <icemandeaf at>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] question on  location symbols

SignWriting List
February 25, 2008

On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Adam Frost wrote:I'm not really strong on those symbols because I usually don't see the need to be so specific in writing exact loction. However, as I understand it the difference is floor plane and wall plane just as it is with arrows. That would mean that the floor plane (single line) would be the underneath, whereas the wall plane (double line) is in front of or closer to the signer in expressive view. Now, I could be wrong, so don't cite me. :-) Does anyone know for sure?

Hello Adam and Anny!
You are absolutely correct, Adam, and I am very glad to see you back on the SignWriting List!

They are called Surface Symbols, and the explanation is located in the SignWriting E-Lessons:

SignWriting eLessons <> 

And I agree, use them rarely, since when writing for everyday use, it is really too much detail. There are some signs in storytelling that get very detailed, like Goldilocks tossing and turning on a bed that was too hard, so in that case we needed a way to make sure people knew we were writing one hand on top of the other, but it is rare and even in that case, I believe in time, as people become skilled readers, they will not need so much information to know that is what they are reading ;-)

Val ;-)


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