USA: Happy July 4th!

[Lucy]

Very interesting notes, Adam and Val.
We have a couple for similar fingerspelling-based SIGNS, but not for names 
of states (the Polish "states" are called provinces or voivodeships). Some 
of such signs are:

1. SOK (juice)
2. TAK (yes) (many variants)
3. NIE (no; not)
4. MAGISTER or MGR (Master of Arts/Sciences/Education; MA, MSc, MEd.)

The above signs are fingerspelt like s-o-k, t-a-k and so on, or just s-k, 
t-k, n-e, m-r - all with very rapid movements.
One note to add: for YES and NO there are also several different signs in 
PJM, each of which is used in specific contexts.

I'm sorry, I have no map of Poland with the signs for the Polish provinces 
but I think I will prepare one if I have time to do it. Good idea :-)

Lucy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] USA: Happy July 4th!


> SignWriting List
> July 4, 2008
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> Hello Lucy!
> This is so much fun, to share the writing of US states with someone
> like yourself, from Poland!
>
> Do you have a map of Polish states with their sign names? We will
> always be interested to learn more about Poland too.
>
> Regarding the sign names for the US states...you are right that more
> of the western states have sign names that are not based on
> fingerspelling, but actually, even the states that have sign names
> based on fingerspelling are real sign names and very Deaf names. Here
> in the US, fingerspelling of names of places can become like a real
> "sign"...they have real movement involved that would not happen in
> plain fingerspelling...
>
> the fingerspelling evolved into a real sign with unique
> movement...Take a look at the sign for Minnesota...It is MINN but the
> movement makes it a real sign...the letter i moves back, and the two
> Ns move forward with emphasis twice...the back movement of the i is
> almost like a short unimportant movement that makes the forceful
> movement of the double N even more important...it has a rhythm to it ;-)
>
>
>


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> On Jul 4, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Lucy wrote:
>> I can, Val :-)
>> Happy July 4th! :-)
>> It seems that there western States are more Deaf than the eastern
>> ones :-)
>> And now I can see your States have very strange borderlines :-)))
>> Lucy
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