AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Dec 3 03:55:24 UTC 2009
I find the fingerspelling easier to read vertically, and the face shapes horizontally as I can see the sequence, though I would need to learn Gebardeschreft (spelling) to understand when the thumb/index actually hits.
When I wrote a fingerspelling sequence in ASL where the head tilted up to start the name and then nodded down to finish, I found it easier to write the fingerspelling down the page with the facial nod at the beginning and the end.
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From: Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca>
To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:20:11 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
Hallo Stefan and
everyone,
Who
prefers writing horizontally or vertically for a sign name, a full name and a
speech? You will see the attached "horizontal vs
vertical.
Best
regards,
André
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>From: Stefan Wöhrmann
>To: 'SignWriting List'
>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:59
> PM
>Subject: AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting
> Greeting Cards
>
>
>Hi Ingvild
> and sw-list friends,
>
>Thank you
> for your message. This can be the beginning of a general discussion about what
> we are doing if we try to describe the performance of a signer
>
>
>So many
> aspects involved – what do I see? What makes a difference? Is it necessary to
> be familiar with the given SL? Can I repeat the performance exactly the same
> way? How many details are wanted? Spelling standards ... spelling rule
> violations ... Who is the reader? ...
>
>And now –
> how to express my idea of what is performed in SignWriting? Writing for
> the informed reader or for just anybody?
>
>In this
> case – I write just two fingerspelling handshapes almost at the same place
> performed. “j “ first and “d” afterwards.
>
>I admit
> that I never saw Jonathan performing his name – so I guess it is close to what
> is supposed to be standard .. J and D
>
>Your
> spelling is a different performance.
>
>Of course
> there are other options to sign this – smile – and I understand the point that
> this wrist – movement would lead to some kind of expectation that the next symbol should appear on the
> left. But this is simply a fingerspelling-sequence coming one after the next.
>
>
>In this
> case it is the spelling for a sign name - it is written from left to
> right ... I still prefer writing
> horizontally more, ... if I do not use SignPuddle – Software -
>
>especially if I prepare the documents for
> my students at school.
>
>
>Stefan ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Von:> sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Ingvild Roald
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009
> 18:25
>An: > sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting
> Greeting Cards
>
>I think maybe I would write like
> this (see attached JD.jpg), from the feeling of the
> movements
>
>
>Ingvild
>
>
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:06:31
> -0800
>From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print
> SignWriting Greeting Cards
>To:
> sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Curious, Ingvild, would you then
> put the fingerspelled D below the J? Fingerspelling, at least in ASL has
> all the letters at the same height, and usually is read left to right, not up
> and down. When I was transcribing a video, I did fingerspelling as a
> stack of letters so that it was clear that it was sequential. (see ASL
> Encylopedia).
>
>Would that be
> better?
>
>
>
________________________________
>From:Ingvild
> Roald <iroald at hotmail.com>
>To: > sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:00:35
> PM
>Subject: RE: AW: [sw-l]
> Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
>
>hm...
>
>if I
> did not know the J was supposed to come before the D, the movement would make
> me think that this was DJ ..
>
>Ingvild
>
>
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:35:57 -0600
>From:
> joyoduncan at gmail.com
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: AW:
> [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
>
>Hi
> Stefan,
> Getting back to some email I didn't reply to
> yet. ;-)
> Yes
> that is my sign name. We I guess without the face. My sign
> name doesn't have any contacts. It's just JD.
>
>
>Jonathan
> Duncan
>
>Stefan Wöhrmann
> wrote:
>Good
> morning ,
>
>
>reading
> your message I tried to remember your name sign. Google showed up with many
> results … but this one is really interesting - isn’t it?
>
>
>Stefan
> ;-)
>
>
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>Von:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu > [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]
> Im Auftrag von Jonathan
> y Yolaine
>Gesendet: Samstag, 17. Oktober 2009
> 02:08
>An: > SignWriting List
>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Print SignWriting
> Greeting Cards
>
>Hi Val,
> Nice
> cards, just wanted to point out that the signwriting for Get Well as a typo
> has two right hands!! :-)
>
>
>Jonathan
>Valerie
> Sutton wrote:
>SignWriting
> List
>September 21,
> 2009
>
>Print your own Greeting Cards in
> SignWriting
>
>Go
>to:
>
>SignWriting
> Cards
>
>and click on Number 12 on that web
> page...
>
>Or download
> here:
>
>SignWriting
> Greeting Cards in ASL
>Document posted on the
> web
>For printing cards
> with:
>Avery 3266 Quarter-Fold Greeting
> Cards
>
>
>
>
>
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