AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Wed Dec 2 20:59:43 UTC 2009

Hi Ingvild and sw-list friends, 

Thank you for your message. This can be the beginning of a general
discussion about what we are doing if we try to describe the performance of
a signer 

So many aspects involved – what do I see? What makes a difference? Is it
necessary to be familiar with the given SL? Can I repeat the performance
exactly the same way? How many details are wanted? Spelling standards ...
spelling rule violations ... Who is the reader? ... 

And now – how to express my idea of what is performed in SignWriting?
Writing for the informed reader or for just anybody?  

In this case – I write just two fingerspelling handshapes almost at the same
place performed.    “j “ first and “d” afterwards.  

I admit that I never saw Jonathan performing his name – so I guess it is
close to what is supposed to be standard .. J and  D

Your spelling is a different performance.  

Of course there are other options to sign this – smile – and I understand
the point that this wrist – movement  would lead to some kind of expectation
that the next symbol should appear on the left. But this is simply a
fingerspelling-sequence coming one after the next. 

In this case it is the spelling for a sign name -  it is written from left
to right  ... I still prefer writing horizontally more, ... if I do not use
SignPuddle – Software  - 

especially if I prepare the documents for my students at school. 

Stefan ;-)

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[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Ingvild Roald
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009 18:25
An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

I think maybe I would write like this (see attached JD.jpg), from the
feeling of the movements

Ingvild 

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:06:31 -0800
From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu

Curious, Ingvild, would you then put the fingerspelled D below the J?
Fingerspelling, at least in ASL has all the letters at the same height, and
usually is read left to right, not up and down.  When I was transcribing a
video, I did fingerspelling as a stack of letters so that it was clear that
it was sequential.  (see ASL Encylopedia).

Would that be better?

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From: Ingvild Roald <iroald at hotmail.com>
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:00:35 PM
Subject: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

hm...

if I did not know the J was supposed to come before the D, the movement
would make me think that this was DJ ..

Ingvild 

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:35:57 -0600
From: joyoduncan at gmail.com
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hi Stefan,
    Getting back to some email I didn't reply to yet. ;-) 
    Yes that is my sign name.   We I guess without the face.  My sign name
doesn't have any contacts.  It's just JD.

Jonathan Duncan

Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: 

Good morning , 

reading your message I tried to remember your name sign. Google showed up
with many results 
 but this one is really interesting -  isn’t it? 

Stefan ;-)

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Jonathan y
Yolaine
Gesendet: Samstag, 17. Oktober 2009 02:08
An: SignWriting List
Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hi Val,
    Nice cards, just wanted to point out that the signwriting for Get Well
as a typo has two right hands!! :-) 

Jonathan
Valerie Sutton wrote: 

SignWriting List 

September 21, 2009

Print your own Greeting Cards in SignWriting

Go to:

SignWriting <http://www.signwriting.org/cards>  Cards

and click on Number 12 on that web page...

Or download here:

SignWriting
<http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0573-US-SignWriting-GreetingCard
s.pdf>  Greeting Cards in ASL

Document posted on the web

For printing cards with:

Avery 3266 Quarter-Fold Greeting Cards

<http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0573-US-SignWriting-GreetingCard
s.pdf> 

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