AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Thu Dec 3 23:25:03 UTC 2009

HI André

I do not understand your idea. Your attached documents –hmm what is this?
This does not make sense!    There are so many well written SW-documents in
the German SignPuddle if you are interested to read German Sign Language
written in GebaerdenSchrift.  Your documents do not show GebaerdenSchrift.
..hm....So many other projects on my todo list. I have to focus on other
things ... 

Stefan ;-) 

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Gagnon et
Thibeault
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2009 18:58
An: SignWriting List
Betreff: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hallo Stefan and everyone,

    Who is the reader?

    I assume that the reader reads and writes a SW in vertical coloumns
because Val already mentioned that Deaf people requested writing in vertical
coloumns.

    What are spelling standards and spelling rule violations?

    Stefan, You have a good question.

    You will see the attached "read horizontally" and "read vertically" for
fingerspelling names and compound signs.  In addition, you will see the
attached "horizontal Gebradeschreft" and "vertical Gebradeschrefts" for a
speech.

    Sw-list friends, What do you think about spelling standards and rule
violations?

    Best regards,

    André

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <mailto:stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de>  

To: 'SignWriting List' <mailto:sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>  

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:59 PM

Subject: AW: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hi Ingvild and sw-list friends, 

Thank you for your message. This can be the beginning of a general
discussion about what we are doing if we try to describe the performance of
a signer 

So many aspects involved – what do I see? What makes a difference? Is it
necessary to be familiar with the given SL? Can I repeat the performance
exactly the same way? How many details are wanted? Spelling standards ...
spelling rule violations ... Who is the reader? ... 

And now – how to express my idea of what is performed in SignWriting?
Writing for the informed reader or for just anybody?  

In this case – I write just two fingerspelling handshapes almost at the same
place performed.    “j “ first and “d” afterwards.  

I admit that I never saw Jonathan performing his name – so I guess it is
close to what is supposed to be standard .. J and  D

Your spelling is a different performance.  

Of course there are other options to sign this – smile – and I understand
the point that this wrist – movement  would lead to some kind of expectation
that the next symbol should appear on the left. But this is simply a
fingerspelling-sequence coming one after the next. 

In this case it is the spelling for a sign name -  it is written from left
to right  ... I still prefer writing horizontally more, ... if I do not use
SignPuddle – Software  - 

especially if I prepare the documents for my students at school. 

Stefan ;-)

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Ingvild Roald
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009 18:25
An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Betreff: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

I think maybe I would write like this (see attached JD.jpg), from the
feeling of the movements

Ingvild 

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:06:31 -0800
From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu

Curious, Ingvild, would you then put the fingerspelled D below the J?
Fingerspelling, at least in ASL has all the letters at the same height, and
usually is read left to right, not up and down.  When I was transcribing a
video, I did fingerspelling as a stack of letters so that it was clear that
it was sequential.  (see ASL Encylopedia).

Would that be better?

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From: Ingvild Roald <iroald at hotmail.com>
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:00:35 PM
Subject: RE: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

hm...

if I did not know the J was supposed to come before the D, the movement
would make me think that this was DJ ..

Ingvild 

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:35:57 -0600
From: joyoduncan at gmail.com
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hi Stefan,
    Getting back to some email I didn't reply to yet. ;-) 
    Yes that is my sign name.   We I guess without the face.  My sign name
doesn't have any contacts.  It's just JD.

Jonathan Duncan

Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: 

Good morning , 

reading your message I tried to remember your name sign. Google showed up
with many results 
 but this one is really interesting -  isn’t it? 

Stefan ;-)

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Jonathan y
Yolaine
Gesendet: Samstag, 17. Oktober 2009 02:08
An: SignWriting List
Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Print SignWriting Greeting Cards

Hi Val,
    Nice cards, just wanted to point out that the signwriting for Get Well
as a typo has two right hands!! :-) 

Jonathan
Valerie Sutton wrote: 

SignWriting List 

September 21, 2009

Print your own Greeting Cards in SignWriting

Go to:

SignWriting <http://www.signwriting.org/cards>  Cards

and click on Number 12 on that web page...

Or download here:

SignWriting
<http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0573-US-SignWriting-GreetingCard
s.pdf>  Greeting Cards in ASL

Document posted on the web

For printing cards with:

Avery 3266 Quarter-Fold Greeting Cards

<http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0573-US-SignWriting-GreetingCard
s.pdf> 

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