Handwriting: Val's Shorthand Suggestions

Mon Jan 5 15:38:58 UTC 2009

Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> January 1, 2009
>
> Hello Jonathan!
> Thank you for this message...My answers are in-between yours, below ;-)
Me too :-)
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>  Hi Val,
>>        I think that it's a great idea.  I was about to volunteer to 
>> offer to clean up and put the scanned pages together into a PDF for 
>> you so that you can post it on your web site. I am still offering.   
>> Then we would have the old Shorthand book for historical and 
>> inspirational reasons.  That's if you could scan it all and send it 
>> to me.  Even if you don't have time to scan it all at once, it would 
>> be ok.  Does the handbook have many pages?
>
> Jonathan - this is sooo nice of you...the book has around 200 pages 
> and since I am here and you are in Honduras, I guess the only one who 
> can scan the pages is me...and really they don't need to be cleaned 
> up, if they are just an historical scan...
>
> Thank you, though, for offering to help me...I really appreciate it 
> very much...
>
> You have already contributed much to SignWriting..working on new 
> software called the SignWriter Studio...is that right? 
That's right.  It coming along slowly but surely.
> and also transcribing videos of ASL into written literature in 
> SignPuddle in 2008 is really great...I will have more to tell you 
> about that later...Adam is helping me place the video on SignPuddle 
> coordinating with your writing...
Great!!!
>
> Anyway...in regards to the scanning of the 200 page old Shorthand 
> book, I do not know when I can get to that...I will try soon, although 
> I suspect most people will want to write the way they are writing 
> right now and the historic shorthand book will be just that...historic...
I will probably take several hours to scan that many pages. 
>
>>
>>
>>     I am game to help with the shorthand.  1 a page or 2 a week 
>> should be fine.  Slow and steady wins the race !!! :-)
>
> Oh that is so nice of you....well the truth is that I want to finish 
> other projects that you and I already started...such as editing the 
> ASL transcription which you did for us in 2008...if you have the time, 
> perhaps you and Adam can compare your writing and discuss different 
> writing issues together? once we have the videos up near the writing 
> it will be easier to have the editing discussions...
Sounds good, I would love to.
>
> meanwhile, back to the shorthand, let me do the scan of the book...and 
> then the point I was trying to make before is that the shorthand could 
> possibly be adapted for daily use, but it would have to be adapted and 
> the old shorthand book is truly for shorthand and not the same 
> thing...so scanning the book is not the real answer to solving 
> everyone's handwriting needs...
True....  I think I see your point.    It will take precious time to 
scan and you're not sure that it will be really useful in the end.
>>     For the last year, I have been drawing and signwriting most of my 
>> sign related notes.  But recently, I´ve caught myself glossing 
>> instead because it is so much faster for me.  I strongly agree withe 
>> others on the list that is is important to be able to write 
>> signwriting at a decent pace.  This would make it so much more useful 
>> than it already is.
>
> This is great to know, Jonathan...and I agree.
>
> You see, for my personal notes I really do use the old Shorthand, but 
> that is only when I am writing for myself...if I want others to read 
> my handwritten notes in SignWriting, I choose to write like I was 
> teaching in that Handwriting course 2 years ago on the web, because 
> then I know people will probably be able to read my writing:
>
> SW Handwriting Course
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/
>
>
>
>>
>>     I mentioned the Shorthand to my wife.  She didn't know what it 
>> was about, then when I explained it to her, she said that would be 
>> happy that I learn. :-)
>>     I guess she finds I take a lot of time when I do my 
>> signwriting!!! :-)
>>
>>     Of course, I wouldn't need true Shorthand, what Dr. Karen van 
>> Hoek suggested sounds like a very good idea to me.   To use Shorthand 
>> like writing to improve the speed of writing.
>>
>>     When do we start?
>
>
> When time permits, we will start! Thank you so much for your interest 
> and encouragement!
>
> What are some of my 2009 projects?
>
> 1. finding more sources of income for our non-profit organization
> 2. documenting the ISWA 2008, which I have not completed yet ;-)
> 3. writing the 2008 SignWriting Year-End Report
> 4. end of the year bookkeeping, accounting and tax-preparation ;-)
> 5. establishing more software downloads on our web sites...including 
> new developments
> 6. starting the official site for the SignWriting Literature Project 
> archives, which will someday include a search engine for every 
> document ever written in SignWriting
> 7. improving our Lessons in SignWriting, including editing and 
> creating the third Lessons in SignWriting video, which Adam and 
> Lucinda created in 2008, but the video footage never got put 
> together...you can view some of it on this web page already:
>
> Third Video for Lesson in SignWriting Video Series
> Video Three: Movement Symbols
> http://www.signwriting.org/video/lessons/movement/
>
> 8. and of course the Advanced Handwriting...or Handwriting-Shorthand, 
> which we have been discussing...
> 9. and then there is the Wikipedia in American Sign Language...
>
> Big smile ;-))
>
> 10...and getting the whole ISWA into SignBank...the symbols were 
> automatically installed but the name of each symbol has to be put in 
> manually and I am only around half way through...we need the ISWA in 
> SignBank so it can coordinate with SignPuddle...smile...
Well those are a lot of great projects for the coming year.
>
> Anyway...2009 will be a great year and I am so happy to be able to 
> work with you -
Me too!!!
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
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