Handwriting: Val's Shorthand Suggestions
Valerie Sutton
signwriting at MAC.COM
Thu Jan 1 19:57:43 UTC 2009
SignWriting List
January 1, 2009
Hello Jonathan!
Thank you for this message...My answers are in-between yours, below ;-)
On Dec 29, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>> Hi Val,
> I think that it's a great idea. I was about to volunteer to
> offer to clean up and put the scanned pages together into a PDF for
> you so that you can post it on your web site. I am still offering.
> Then we would have the old Shorthand book for historical and
> inspirational reasons. That's if you could scan it all and send it
> to me. Even if you don't have time to scan it all at once, it would
> be ok. Does the handbook have many pages?
Jonathan - this is sooo nice of you...the book has around 200 pages
and since I am here and you are in Honduras, I guess the only one who
can scan the pages is me...and really they don't need to be cleaned
up, if they are just an historical scan...
Thank you, though, for offering to help me...I really appreciate it
very much...
You have already contributed much to SignWriting..working on new
software called the SignWriter Studio...is that right? and also
transcribing videos of ASL into written literature in SignPuddle in
2008 is really great...I will have more to tell you about that
later...Adam is helping me place the video on SignPuddle coordinating
with your writing...
Anyway...in regards to the scanning of the 200 page old Shorthand
book, I do not know when I can get to that...I will try soon, although
I suspect most people will want to write the way they are writing
right now and the historic shorthand book will be just
that...historic...
>
>
> I am game to help with the shorthand. 1 a page or 2 a week
> should be fine. Slow and steady wins the race !!! :-)
Oh that is so nice of you....well the truth is that I want to finish
other projects that you and I already started...such as editing the
ASL transcription which you did for us in 2008...if you have the time,
perhaps you and Adam can compare your writing and discuss different
writing issues together? once we have the videos up near the writing
it will be easier to have the editing discussions...
meanwhile, back to the shorthand, let me do the scan of the book...and
then the point I was trying to make before is that the shorthand could
possibly be adapted for daily use, but it would have to be adapted and
the old shorthand book is truly for shorthand and not the same
thing...so scanning the book is not the real answer to solving
everyone's handwriting needs...
>
>
> For the last year, I have been drawing and signwriting most of
> my sign related notes. But recently, I´ve caught myself glossing
> instead because it is so much faster for me. I strongly agree withe
> others on the list that is is important to be able to write
> signwriting at a decent pace. This would make it so much more
> useful than it already is.
This is great to know, Jonathan...and I agree.
You see, for my personal notes I really do use the old Shorthand, but
that is only when I am writing for myself...if I want others to read
my handwritten notes in SignWriting, I choose to write like I was
teaching in that Handwriting course 2 years ago on the web, because
then I know people will probably be able to read my writing:
SW Handwriting Course
http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/
>
> I mentioned the Shorthand to my wife. She didn't know what it
> was about, then when I explained it to her, she said that would be
> happy that I learn. :-)
> I guess she finds I take a lot of time when I do my
> signwriting!!! :-)
>
> Of course, I wouldn't need true Shorthand, what Dr. Karen van
> Hoek suggested sounds like a very good idea to me. To use
> Shorthand like writing to improve the speed of writing.
>
> When do we start?
When time permits, we will start! Thank you so much for your interest
and encouragement!
What are some of my 2009 projects?
1. finding more sources of income for our non-profit organization
2. documenting the ISWA 2008, which I have not completed yet ;-)
3. writing the 2008 SignWriting Year-End Report
4. end of the year bookkeeping, accounting and tax-preparation ;-)
5. establishing more software downloads on our web sites...including
new developments
6. starting the official site for the SignWriting Literature Project
archives, which will someday include a search engine for every
document ever written in SignWriting
7. improving our Lessons in SignWriting, including editing and
creating the third Lessons in SignWriting video, which Adam and
Lucinda created in 2008, but the video footage never got put
together...you can view some of it on this web page already:
Third Video for Lesson in SignWriting Video Series
Video Three: Movement Symbols
http://www.signwriting.org/video/lessons/movement/
8. and of course the Advanced Handwriting...or Handwriting-Shorthand,
which we have been discussing...
9. and then there is the Wikipedia in American Sign Language...
Big smile ;-))
10...and getting the whole ISWA into SignBank...the symbols were
automatically installed but the name of each symbol has to be put in
manually and I am only around half way through...we need the ISWA in
SignBank so it can coordinate with SignPuddle...smile...
Anyway...2009 will be a great year and I am so happy to be able to
work with you -
Val ;-)
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