AW: AW: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

[Stefan Wöhrmann]

Hi Honza, Val and sw-list friends 
 

 

Honza wrote: “I won't use any face expression, at least expression that
should mean "B" - so the one Stefan supposed.”



 

I would like to use Valeries words 

 

...Sometimes people see videos differently so it is possible my
interpretation is not right...

 

(there are no mouthmovements?? hm .. interesting)

 

Have a great day everybody

Stefan 

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Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Honza
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 22:36
An: SignWriting List
Betreff: Re: AW: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech
SignPuddle

 

Hi Val and Stefan,

actually it is not Czech, but Slovak sign, but that is not important ;),
anyway it means PEAR.
I tried to use similar spelling inspired by Val.

I won't use any face expression, at least expression that should mean "B" -
so the one Stefan supposed.

thanks for help
Honza

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
wrote:

SignWriting List
January 27, 2009

Hi Stefan!

That is fine! That mouth position can certainly be interpreted as tense
lips...and if that is a"P" in Woehrmann's SpeechWriting that is fine...I
don't know what the Czech word is for that sign..I don't even know what the
sign means....so I agree if Honza agrees...

The Tense lips can also be used slightly differently...in ASL we use the
Tense lips for two lips pressing each other, like in the sign for
possessives such as YOURS or HIS...and that is not quite a P position of the
lips...so I guess there are some tiny variations for use for that
symbol...and that is perfectly fine ;-)

Even in our two spoken languages...German and English...we use the Roman
alphabet differently...so this is to be expected...

I will remember that P is the Tense Lips symbol in SpeechWriting...

Thank you for SpeechWriting! It is an important development and successful
too...

Val ;-)






On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:

Hi Val,

thanks for your message. I always love to study your spellings ...

In this case I would like to add one comment.

I see, that you decided to add a facial expression - in Germany we say
mouth-gesture to all kinds of mouth, lip, tongue movements that do not go
along with soundless speaking ...

The signer is moving the lips as if speaking - so speechwriting starting
with the "P"-mouth   would be my suggestion.



 



Stefan ;-)




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag vonValerie Sutton
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 18:51
An: SignWriting List
Cc: Adam Frost
Betreff: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

SignWriting List
January 27, 2009

Here are my attempts at writing this very difficult but interesting
sign from the Czech Republic! See attached....

Hope this helps....these examples are in your Czech SignPuddle
dictionary, Honza, for you to play with...

As you can see, this is a difficult sign to write, and I tried many
avenues...I am not sure what is best myself, but sometimes, after a
long time, people start writing themselves, and one day, someone comes
up with a great way to write the same sign that we were struggling
with for years! So see this as a "first attempt" and then over time
you will get feedback from others until you find a SignSpelling that
works for your readers...

I have to go to an appointment now, so I will be back later today -
Val ;-)






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