Writing Mouth Movements and video to write....

[Honza]

Hi Charles,

I can convert to another format if you cannot open it.
what formats are you able to open?

Hi list,

about mouthing - I don't know how you, but now in general I use facial
expression mostly in deaf signs and there, where it is confusing having no
facing.

About mouthing - it is not always clear what is "the correct" mouth movement
for each sign. Sometimes people just "say" czech word with sign, sometimes
just part of signs.
I don't write down "saying words" movement, only non-words mouth components,
if you follow.

Honza

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> ..AVI I have not been able to open with Quick Time or
> any other video on my system, any help there.  This
> seems to be the standard in Europe, but I can't read
> the video.
>
> Charles
>
> --- Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
>
> > SignWriting List
> > January 28, 2009
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> > > " I would like to use Valeries words...Sometimes
> > people see videos
> > > differently so it is possible my interpretation is
> > not right...
> > > (there are no mouthmovements?? hm .. interesting)
> > Have a great day
> > > everybody
> > > Stefan
> >
> > Hello Stefan!
> > Thank you for your comments and I hope you could
> > write the hands in
> > this sign...I have attached the video of the sign
> > below...I would love
> > to see how you would write the entire sign,
> > including the mouth
> > movements!
> >
> > Of course there are mouth movements. You are
> > absolutely correct on
> > that one! And we all see them. smile
> >
> > And THANK YOU, Stefan, for the developments you have
> > created writing
> > Mouth Movements....Your work is groundbreaking and
> > very important.
> > Woehrmann's SpeechWriting is really working in Deaf
> > Education and that
> > is what matters....
> >
> > So maybe I should explain about what I say "we write
> > what we see"....
> >
> > When I say "we write what we see"....that is true,
> > but let me add
> > another second phrase..."Each writer must choose
> > WHAT to write, from
> > what they see. We do not necessarily write ALL that
> > we see at all
> > times. It depends on the purpose of the document and
> > the choice of the
> > writer, as to what they write and what they leave
> > out."
> >
> > So it is a personal choice...
> >
> > I really like reading the Mouth Movements in German
> > documents and
> > dictionaries!
> >
> > It is true that I do not write all the Mouth
> > Movements I see in
> > videos...but that does not mean it is not good to do
> > so...naturally
> > you do that because you are working with Deaf
> > children...so each
> > writer makes their choices what to leave out...
> >
> > For example, I write more Facial Expressions when I
> > write SignWriting
> > Literature. But for dictionary entries, sometimes
> > Facial Expressions
> > can change depending on the sentence in Literature,
> > so sometimes
> > placing the Facial Expressions in Dictionary entries
> > is not
> > appropriate, depending on the circumstance, or
> > perhaps in the
> > dictionary entry we can add different choices of
> > Facial Expressions
> > depending on the possible grammar of a sentence...
> >
> > So here is the sign we are trying to write....can
> > you help us? Val ;-)
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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