Body, Torso, Shoulders, Tilting, Bending

[SignWriting]

Was your figure animated?! I never realized  it was moving - please  
forgive!

I thought it was just a simple stick still figure and you wanted me to  
create the drawings...

I will look at it moving now in a web browser...for some reason my  
Apple email does not run animated GIFs...do you know how to get Apple  
mail to read an animated GIF?

Val ;-)

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On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Adam Frost wrote:

> To be honest, I don't know what I am saying. ;-)
>
> So how would you write the movement that I had the animated stick  
> figure doing?
>
> Adam
>
> On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> July 9, 2008
>>
>> I am very happy we are discussing this. It is good to document all  
>> this.
>>
>> I can try to take a video of myself doing it, but I am not sure you  
>> will be able to see it well
>>
>> I think the easiest way to see these, Adam, is the words "small and  
>> large".
>>
>> When the symbols are near the shoulders, we are doing very small  
>> rocking...we are only "pushing the shoulders over"..it  is the  
>> ribcage moving over a little...
>>
>> When we put the symbols on the head, we are saying that the whole  
>> body goes over...not just the shoulders
>>
>> Mime artists do this differentiation all the time. They isolate a  
>> part of the body, and only move that one part, and not letting any  
>> other part move.
>>
>> Are you saying that you want bending along with the rocking? If so,  
>> then that can be written...see attached diagram below....
>>
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>> So the first ones at the top of this diagram are simply saying that  
>> the shoulders are pushed over to one side or the other a little,  
>> but they are not at a slant...the shoulders are still straight  
>> forward
>>
>> The next ones down, the middle ones, still have the head looking  
>> straight front, but the shoulders are slanting or tilting.. a  
>> slight bend right or left...they also have their shoulder up, and  
>> the shoulders are rocking a little to the side
>>
>> The third ones are really twisting to the corner...so they are  
>> totally different...
>>
>> Someday we need to make a video clip of these differences...
>>
>> Val ;-)
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>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm... Hmmmmm... So there is no weight shift with the shoulder  
>>> rocking? And the shoulders stay level in both, but there is no  
>>> bending?
>>>
>>> I was thinking about the difference being that the pivot is at the  
>>> waist and mid-spine for the rocking from the hips and the shoulder  
>>> respectively, but it would seem that the shoulders and head would  
>>> have to tilt and pivoting from mid-spine would cause bending and  
>>> stretching.
>>>
>>> Hmm... I'm just not seeing it, and you are right that if I was in  
>>> your office with you showing me that I would have it in no time.  
>>> *Sigh*
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:45 PM, SignWriting wrote:
>>>
>>>> My drawing skills are not very good...
>>>>
>>>> Essentially the symbols near the Shoulder Line is Shoulder  
>>>> Rocking and the other is Hip Rocking. While the rocking motion  
>>>> occurs, the spine and head and body all remain straight...there  
>>>> is no bending happening...if you want to combine bending with it  
>>>> you can, but all by themselves, these symbols do not write any  
>>>> bending or twisting...The symbols over the head are really  
>>>> writing weight change from the hip...
>>>>
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