Question about tilting or rocking

[Adam Frost]

So would that be the difference between the torso or spine staying  
straight verses bending?

Adam

On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:58 AM, "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>  
wrote:

> SignWriting List
> July 9, 2009
>
> Hello Ingvild!
> I am sorry I did not explain these symbols better...
>
> Although it is possible to keep the head in one place while the  
> shoulders tilt, or even have the head moving in the opposite  
> direction to the movement of the upper body, that is not what I  
> meant at all...that is not what these symbols mean.
>
> The head goes along with the rocking or tilting motion...
>
> When we place the symbols on top of the head, they are referring to  
> the entire body (the entire spine including the head) doing a weight  
> shift or rocking to one side and the the other. It is a larger  
> rocking motion that includes the entire spine....so if you were  
> standing up, the entire body might shift its weight a little to one  
> side or the other, and if you are sitting down, then the rocking  
> comes from the hips or your seat...It is not writing head motion  
> only...it is a whole-spine rocking...and unless otherwise stated,  
> the head is going along with the spine...that was the way these  
> symbols were defined some 20 years ago...
>
> But when the tilting or rocking motion is placed near the shoulders,  
> it is a smaller rocking that does not involve the entire spine but  
> only the upper half of the spine from the waist up...and the head I  
> would assume, follows along in the direction of the rocking...we are  
> not talking about the head...it is coming along for the ride...
>
> Now it is very possible physically to have the head move in one  
> direction while the shoulders rock in the other direction, but that  
> would require adding the symbols for the head that show that  
> motion, ...The reader would need to know that the shoulders are  
> going one way and the head is lead by the ear in the opposite  
> direction...but unless you are writing dancing or mime that would  
> rarely be needed in SignWriting...the Tilting Symbols are showing  
> weight shifts from the whole spine or the upper spine...
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:04 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
>
>> How can you tilt your torso without also moving your head? Just  
>> moving the stomach /chest back and forth? To move the shoulders  
>> without the head feels more like moving the head in the opposite  
>> direction ...
>>
>> Ingvild
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: signwriting at mac.com
>> > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> > Subject: Re: [sw-l] Re: Question about tilting or rocking
>> > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:38:59 -0700
>> > CC: JoSignJ at aol.com
>> >
>> > SignWriting List
>> > July 8, 2009
>> >
>> > Hello Adam and Jonita!
>> > Thank you for looking at the video of the sign, Adam and for  
>> writing
>> > it...I like your writing...it is clear. When the Tilt symbols are
>> > placed above the head, it means the entire upper body tilts or  
>> shifts
>> > from side to side...When they are placed near the shoulders, that  
>> is
>> > only the shoulders, from the waist...so placing the symbols above  
>> the
>> > head is a stronger tilt motion that is entire upper body...Here are
>> > those symbols:
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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