SW-L Digest, Vol 24, Issue 77

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Thanks for keeping us posted about the new software. Remember, I am still in line for a PocketPuddle. :-)Sharon 

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:40:32 -0400
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From: sutton at signwriting.org
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:28:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles

SignWriting List
July 25, 2009

On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:
> I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?
> ~Stephen

Hi Stephen, Steve and everyone -

Of course Steve can best answer this...

But it is my understanding that Steve is working on upgrading  
SignPuddle Online, the PocketPuddle, and the PersonalPuddle to all  
work with the new SignWriting Image Server (SWIS) and a new version of  
SignText...

The goal is to be ready by the end of August, since there are others  
who need the PocketPuddle by September 1st, so that is our goal...but  
there is a busy month ahead...

Val ;-)

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From: slevin at signpuddle.net
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:32:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles

Hi Stephen,

The PocketPuddles are on my list.  Currently, I'm finishing up the new
SignText.  Then I'll be updating SignPuddle Online and the PocketPuddle
to use BSW and the new SignMaker and SignText.  Then I have the
MediaWiki Plugin and the SignPuddle Reader to finish.

So the PocketPuddles could be ready maybe in September.  Wish I was
better at estimates.

Regards,

-Steve

Stephen Jones wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?

~Stephen

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From: swterp at gmail.com
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:38:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Pocket Puddles

Hi,

No problem. Thanks for the quick reply. I look forward to all the updates! Thanks for all your hard work!

~Stephen

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net> wrote:

Hi Stephen,

The PocketPuddles are on my list.  Currently, I'm finishing up the new
SignText.  Then I'll be updating SignPuddle Online and the PocketPuddle
to use BSW and the new SignMaker and SignText.  Then I have the
MediaWiki Plugin and the SignPuddle Reader to finish.

So the PocketPuddles could be ready maybe in September.  Wish I was
better at estimates.

Regards,

-Steve

Stephen Jones wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering when is the new pocket puddle going to be available?

~Stephen

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From: kjoanne403 at signwriting.org
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:55:03 -0600
Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle Brackets

I'd love to be involved with the SW shorthand as 
well; I have seen references to it on the site but I'd love to learn more about 
how it works and help with the updates...
KJ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Stephen Jones 

  To: SignWriting List 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:53 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle 
  Brackets

Hi,

I understand how you are doing brackets if needed 
  now. Thanks for the tip!

I would be very interested in the shorthand 
  system and even working with you to update it if you have the time and want 
  someone else to help with it.

Both my wife and I are doing this project 
  for Grad school, but we also use SignWriting in our work as interpreters. We 
  have even taught an in house training for other interpreters interested in 
  writing Sign Languages. 

~Stephen

  On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> 
  wrote:

    SignWriting List
July 23, 2009

Hi Stephen 
    -
Thanks for this message...

On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:

    I 
      have not been able to transfer everything we are getting to SignPuddle 
      yet. We do what are called elicitation sessions and have to write what we 
      elicit into a Data Notebook by hand during the session with the Language 
      Consultant. It is a requirement of the class to write it at the time we 
      "hear" it. So, I currently have not put sentences into sign puddle, but 
      they are all in my Data Note Book for Paraguay 
    Signs.

What an interesting project! So you are 
    writing SignWriting by hand then...As you know, years ago, in the 1980's we 
    had a success with using our old SignWriting Shorthand system for classroom 
    notetaking in ASL, at CSUN for a Deaf student and it was an exciting time, 
    with new ideas being applied to real classroom settings....writing sign 
    language at speed of signing, and then re-writing the notes taken so 
    quickly, into more formal SignWriting for the student to be able to read at 
    home...then SignWriting evolved into expressive and vertical writing and the 
    Shorthand fell out of date, and it still has to be updated to match the way 
    we write today, but I am confident that we can someday start using the 
    Shorthand again as a form of daily personal handwriting, that might be 
    useful for your kind of work...

For those on the List that are new to 
    all this, there is a section on SignWriting Handwriting and Shorthand on the 
    web, in the lessons section:

http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/

I 
      am also teaching Sign Language Phonetics and this is where I was trying to 
      get the brackets. What I do is make the sentences in Sign Text then e-mail 
      them to myself without saving, because the sentences are from videos of 
      Thai sign, African sign, Spanish sign, etc. I also rely on the load signs 
      into sign text after e-mailing heavily if I need to change something. I 
      did not want to save all these in the ASL Puddle, so I just have not been 
      saving them. I also use Sign Puddle to make the dictation tests, which 
      just has about 7 random signs from various languages, so it is not really 
      a story or necessarily ASL and thus I do not save 
    them.

    In 
      short I was trying to do the brackets in Sign 
    Text.

Wow. Well, first I am glad to know you 
    are so skilled with computers and SignPuddle software...and that you know 
    SignText! Your work sounds fascinating ;-)

Regarding the use of 
    brackets, they do well in horizontal writing...that is where they really 
    originated. Then when we started writing vertically, they posed a bit of a 
    problem, but if we were doing a graphics file, like the attached one, where 
    I literally went into Photoshop and added the bracket in grey, then 
    obviously we could use the brackets going down in vertical columns...but 
    that was not using SignText.... (continued next 
    message)...

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