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June 8, 2009

> ....The one benefit I see is that it allows many more people to  
> contribute. It would not all be for Valerie to do.
> Thanks,
>        Gerard

That is certainly an excellent idea, Gerard, and shows the benefits of  
the wiki-based software and sites...so I am all for it in the  
future...Not all people will know how to use it to add their  
information (in spoken languages or sign languages), but some will,  
and that will be better than nothing...

Obviously I personally cannot know all that happens, nor can I keep up  
with the enormous amount of emails I get privately, so this will be a  
welcome solution for the future...

That is all I can say right now, since I am not quite ready yet for  
the wiki at this moment, but I certainly hope this summer I will get  
more versed in using wiki software in general...

Thanks so much for this suggestion -

Val ;-)

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On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

> Hoi,
> It is more like Wikipedia. One of the important things is that it  
> allows everyone to write. When you consider the many e-mails that  
> come out way, you often know about things that you want to remember  
> or want to go back to. These e-mails are often hard to find. In a  
> Wiki like Wikipedia you can build in references to subjects and  
> these subjects can be something like "list of organisations that use  
> SignWriting". Like on Wikipedia everybody can join in the writing.
>
> The one benefit I see is that it allows many more people to  
> contribute. It would not all be for Valerie to do.
> Thanks,
>        Gerard
>
> 2009/6/8 MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>
> Thank you Lucy, Gerard and Valerie,
>
> Oh of course to add to the list there is the University of Malta,
> Institute of Linguistics :)
>
> I'm afraid I have no clue about the 'wiki' - I'm not very good with
> technology :/ I don't even know what a wiki is and at the moment I too
> don't have enough time to look into it. Is it similar to facebook?
>
> Maria
>
>
>
> > Hoi,
> > It is a great idea to have a list of having a list with  
> organisations that
> > use SignWriting. It is cool to know for what sign language they use
> > SignWriting. The best way forward is for you to start this list  
> and for
> > people to update this list themselves. The software to do this; it  
> could
> > be
> > a wiki...
> >
> > There are two reasons for you to have a wiki; one is that others  
> can do
> > this
> > and thereby free you to do your job. The other reason is that it  
> is your
> > intention to have a Wiki anyway; it is why it is on Steve's list  
> to finish
> > the MediaWiki extension. Having your own wiki would make you more
> > comfortable with doing things the wiki way.
> >
> > If you need some help setting up a wiki, let me know :)
> > Thanks,
> >      Gerard
> >
> > 2009/6/8 Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> >
> >> SignWriting List
> >> June 8, 2009
> >>
> >> Hello Lucy in Poland, and Maria in Malta!
> >>
> >> Lucy....THANK YOU for helping us get started with the listing  
> "Who Uses
> >> SignWriting in 2009"...
> >>
> >> Our SignWriting web sites need to be updated in all areas, and  
> the "Who
> >> Uses SignWriitng" area is the most important area...so I need to  
> focus
> >> on
> >> several countries and one of them is Poland...thank you for your
> >> documents
> >> you sent me and I will post them...plus I would like to post the
> >> information
> >> you mention below in some way...
> >>
> >> I am very impressed with your SignWriting usage in Poland...at a  
> Deaf
> >> Institute (school), at a University, and used by individuals...and
> >> several
> >> theses that use or discuss SignWriting...quite wonderful to see it
> >> spread
> >> like that...
> >>
> >> So Maria in Malta, Lucy just gave you information from  
> Poland...that is
> >> a
> >> great beginning...
> >>
> >> Val ;-)
> >>
> >> -------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 8, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Lucy wrote:
> >>
> >>  Who uses SignWriting in Poland?
> >>>
> >>> University of Warsaw, Department of Polish -> students (from  
> different
> >>> majors) of Polish Sign Language courses and students of  
> Postgraduate
> >>> Polish
> >>> Sign Langauge Studies
> >>>
> >>> Instytut Gluchoniemych (Institute of the Deaf and Dumb - a Deaf
> >>> education
> >>> center with such a historical name) - > some junior high school
> >>> students and
> >>> her tutor, Dr Iwona Grzesiak
> >>>
> >>> A few individuals, like me and some of my colleagues, for  
> research and
> >>> educational purposes.
> >>>
> >>> There may be also people using SW I don't know about.
> >>> I know there is one student at the Warsaw Uniwersytet Kardynala  
> Stefana
> >>> Wyszynskiego who writes her MA thesis on SignWriting.
> >>>
> >>> Lucy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Sutton" <
> >>> sutton at signwriting.org>
> >>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:21 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignWriting in Universities/Institutions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  SignWriting List
> >>>> June 8, 2009
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:20 AM, MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have a list of/ or know of any Universities/ 
> Institutions
> >>>>> across the globe, where SignWriting has been adopted either in
> >>>>> research
> >>>>> related to sign linguistics (where signwriting is used for
> >>>>> transcriptions
> >>>>> of data; compiltations of dictinaries etc), or in research  
> related to
> >>>>> Education - where SignWriting has been adopted as a tool in the
> >>>>> Education
> >>>>> for the Deaf? Many thanks, Maria
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Maria and Everyone!
> >>>>
> >>>> Years ago, I made the kind of listing you mention...and placed  
> the
> >>>> listing on the web...but then overtime, the listing became out of
> >>>> date, so
> >>>> I need to create a new current listing for you...
> >>>>
> >>>> I can create a listing that shows the dates that it was used,  
> but here
> >>>>  is the REAL problem...I don't know who is using SignWriting  
> around
> >>>> the
> >>>> world!
> >>>>
> >>>> There are literally hundreds of groups as far as I can guess,  
> judging
> >>>> by
> >>>> my experiences...and most people do not join the SignWriting  
> List,
> >>>> nor do
> >>>> they inform me personally, which is perfectly fine! No one is
> >>>> required to
> >>>> inform me or anyone else, since SignWriting is free to use  all  
> over
> >>>> the
> >>>> world...
> >>>>
> >>>> So how do I know about any group using SignWriting? Some, like  
> you, do
> >>>> participate with our List and with me...but other times, I bump  
> into a
> >>>> SignWriting project that I did not know about, on the internet,  
> or
> >>>> someone
> >>>> tells me later about their work with a group...it is an  amazing
> >>>> feeling to
> >>>> realize that it is spreading like that...thank  goodness.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once I met a teacher of the Deaf who said she used SignWriting a
> >>>> little
> >>>> in her classroom, and the teacher sort of put down their  
> usage,  like
> >>>> it
> >>>> wasn't important...she then proceeds to show me   
> piles....literally
> >>>> hundreds
> >>>> of hand written pages of SignWriting  documents written by her
> >>>> students...it
> >>>> was amazing and wonderful...But  she would not give me  
> permission to
> >>>> let me
> >>>> use her name or to make  copies of her students' writing...so I  
> would
> >>>> not be
> >>>> allowed to list  her classroom on the internet...so getting  
> permission
> >>>> to
> >>>> make such a  list is also a problem for me sometimes...
> >>>>
> >>>> So the problem is that I am not sure which current research  
> groups are
> >>>> using SignWriting, but over the week here I will try to create a
> >>>> little
> >>>> list for you...
> >>>>
> >>>> If there are groups here on the List that use SignWriting like  
> Maria
> >>>> describes above, please tell us!
> >>>>
> >>>> Val ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Valerie Sutton
> >>>> Sutton at SignWriting.org
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. SignWriting
> >>>> Read & Write Sign Languages
> >>>> http://www.SignWriting.org
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. SignPuddle
> >>>> Create SignWriting Documents Online
> >>>> http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. SignBank
> >>>> SignWriting Desktop Databases
> >>>> http://www.SignBank.org
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. SignWriting List
> >>>> Technical Support: Ask questions to the List
> >>>> http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist
> >>>>
> >>>> 5. SignWriting Literature Project
> >>>> Writing Literature in Sign Languages
> >>>> http://www.SignWriting.org/literature
> >>>>
> >>>> Deaf Action Committee For SignWriting
> >>>> Center For Sutton Movement Writing
> >>>> an educational nonprofit organization
> >>>> P.O. Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA
> >>>> tel 858-456-0098   fax 858-456-0020
> >>>> Skype Name: valeriesutton
> >>>> D-Link Videophone:  66.27.57.178
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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