AW: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Mon Jun 1 02:41:11 UTC 2009

I have to agree with the new possible writing with a hooked finger and thumb sticking out to the side.  Trying to put the finger on the opposite side to keep it from being related really defies all visual sense.  


--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at> wrote:

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at>
Subject: AW: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction
To: "'SignWriting List'" <sw-l at>
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 11:54 AM

Hi Valerie and Everyone, 

well this is another sequence - but I have got a problem to see - what you
see - hm 

I really would prefer a different spelling following the idea of the fist
and second handshape - symbol - but ... what else can I do to understand
your suggestion? 

Do not want to bother you with this - but Learning IS FUN ( right Tini??
Smile ) 

All the best 

Stefan ;-)

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Von: sw-l-bounces at
[mailto:sw-l-bounces at] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 15:58
An: SignWriting List
Cc: Stefan Wöhrmann
Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction

SignWriting List
May 31, 2009

Hello Stefan and Everyone!
Thank you for this question. And your photos and writings are always  
so beautiful! Congrats on all you are doing, Stefan....

Regarding the handshape in SignWriting...

The photo of your hand is different than the writing of the handshape  
you are showing in the SignWriting example you have attached...The  
thumb is to the side in your photo...not forward...

So basing it on the photo with the thumb to the side, we have that  
handshape already in the ISWA....I know you will be creating TrueType  
fonts, and that is great...but I am happy it is in the ISWA too, so I  
can show you what I mean...please see my attached screen capture...the  
handshape is in Group 9...the thumb to the side needs the thumb line  
on the other side of the rectangle base from the index finger, because  
when the thumb line is on the same side as the bent Index finger, that  
would show that the thumb and the index finger are relating to each  
other and it means that the thumb line is forward pointing in the same  
direction as the Index finger...So if you want the thumb to look like  
it is pointing in another direction other than the index finger, you  
need the thumb line on the other side of the rectangle base of the  
hand...please see my attached diagram:

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