Keyboarding and updating old and new SW software

[SignWriting]

SignWriting List
June 3, 2009

Wow -
This is a good plan below, Steve -

SignWriter Java, SignWriter Tiger, SignWriter Python and SWEdit (from  
Brazil) all had promise and if we could revive and improve them, that  
would be an amazing development...and to make keyboarding possible for  
the ISWA 2008 in SignPuddle would be great as well...

Meanwhile the drag and drop method works well and is easy to learn for  
most people...so I hope we can keep that as well...

SW Edit is still downloaded on the internet and used, so if that could  
someday be coordinated with SignPuddle that would be used more...we  
will need permission from the developers in Brazil...if we could  
install the ISWA 2008 into SWEdit that would help as well...

The idea of revamping all the SignWriter programs into one  
consolidated SignWriter, possibly in Python, sounds good to me... The  
old SignWriter Java program was so close, but it could never print,  
and then time has gone by and now the symbolset is out of date...and  
SignWriter Tiger by Daniel Noelpp Ly, is still on the web, and the  
source code is available for download...It too was a beautiful program  
that had great promise:

http://www.signwriter.org/
http://www.signwriting.org/swiss/swtiger/

Val ;-)

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On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Steve Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Andre,
>
> If not for time and money, we could have a keyboarding application  
> right now.  The SignWriter keyboard design was updated to the IMWA  
> but never implemented.   Other than time, it would be trivial to  
> update the keyboarding specs for the ISWA 2008.
>
> After I finalize the first version of the open standards of  
> SignWriting, SignWriter should be rewritten with the new symbol set  
> and data model.  Maybe we can start with SignWriter Java or  
> SignWriter Python, but I'm thinking that we'll have to start over.   
> Perhaps someone could update SW Edit?  I heard it had promise.
>
> The new SignText will not initially use the SignWriter keyboard  
> layout, but a layout inspired by the VI editor.  However, I'm hoping  
> that SignPuddle will use a SignWriter style keyboard well before 2012.
>
> Regards,
> -Steve
>
> Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve and everyone,
>>
>>       Steve, I am just curious. Are you going to use (or develop) a  
>> keyboard computer from SignPuddle for ISWA 2012?
>>
>>       Best regards,
>>
>>       André
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Steve Slevinski
>> To: SignWriting List
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] RE: Handshapes and systematic discussion
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Charles Butler wrote:
>>>
>>> As we start getting photographs being laid side by side with the  
>>> graphics that have been created, I think we are going to come to a  
>>> MUCH BETTER consensus discussion and if that means that the ISWA  
>>> has to be edited, then so much the better.  All of us can be  
>>> consulted and come to a happy decision.
>>>
>> If you want to start making notes for the ISWA 2012, please go  
>> ahead.  Valerie and Adam are documenting the ISWA 2008 so you'll be  
>> getting more and more information to work with.
>>
>> The ISWA 2008 will not be changing.  I highly doubt the ISWA will  
>> be revisited in the near future.  We have limited time and  
>> resources and we are moving forward.  Your attitude reinforces the  
>> idea that we are not ready for Unicode yet unless people accept the  
>> idea that no writing system is perfect and that knowledge can be  
>> gained by understanding the imperfections.
>>
>> The ISWA 2008 was a labor of love.  We already had a formal review  
>> and that review ended last year.  The ISWA 2008 is the current  
>> standard for SignWriting.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
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