Signwriting Documents - another program?

Bill Reese wreese01 at TAMPABAY.RR.COM
Sun Mar 15 18:16:20 UTC 2009


Jonathon,

By your list, you look close to a beta.   Completion of the two items 
you mentioned that need work or you're working on, the implementation of 
the arrow symbol chooser in SWEditor, and a rudimentary Help file for 
those testing would seem to put you there.   Some of your "not yet 
implemented" items look optional that can be added during the beta.

I use Kubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, whereas Ubuntu uses 
Gnome.  Gnome is smaller than KDE and works faster on older computers.  
The KDE desktop is more Windows-like which appeals to those moving over 
from Windows.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu have been the most popular Linux 
distros for 3 years now and they both regularly update every 6 months.

Bill


Jonathan y Yolaine wrote:
> Bill,
>     I was hoping to release a beta, but I might just go ahead and 
> release an alpha so I can get more feed back earlier on in the 
> development progress.   Right now it won't run on Linux.  I am still 
> thinking of releasing it for Linux, but it depends how complex it 
> becomes to port it to Linux. I have noticed that the Mono project to 
> port Windows .NET programs to Linux is maturing well. 
>     Which flavor of Linux do you use/recommend?
>
> Jonathan
>
> Bill Reese wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> You're program list is very impressive.  I'd like to test it once you 
>> get it to a point where you can release an alpha or beta.  Will it be 
>> able to work on different platforms like Linux?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>> Hi Maria,
>>>     My program called "The SignWriter Studio" has many features, one 
>>> of them being SignWriting Documents.  It has been a big project.  
>>> Some of it´s goals have been faster sign input, keyboard input, 
>>> standalone program not needing internet, multi-spoken language to 
>>> signlanguage, sign lists to helps students learn new signs.
>>>     I am still working on the printing routines but the goal is that 
>>> the columns flow into the space available.  So it can do any size 
>>> page.  I have it working were it will accommodate and re flow to the 
>>> window size.
>>>
>>> Here is an update of the progress of my program.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> *Main Feature* 	*Feature* 	*Status* 	*Comment*
>>> *GlosstoSign* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Gloss to Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Phrase to Sign 	In Future version 	Match a phrase or consecutive 
>>> words with a sign
>>> *
>>> * 	Pass to Document 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Insert Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Remove Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Change Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *ImageEditor* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Crop 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Convert to Black and White 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Open/Save Image File 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Eraser 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Resize 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Contrast 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Brightness 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Undo/Redo 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *Import Export* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Import SBML 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Export SBML 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Import SignText URL 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Export SignText URL 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Import from another copy TheSignWriterStudio 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose Dictionary Sign Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *Options* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose User Interface Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose User Interface Sign Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose First Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose Second Gloss Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Choose Dictionary Sign Language 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SignList* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Rename/Choose/Delete SignList 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Rename/Choose/Order/Delete SignList Sub Titles 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Choose/Delete SignList Sub Title Signs from Dictionary 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Display Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Mark Signs not in any previous Sub Title 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Print List 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Print Preview 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Export to Image File for Slide Show 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SWDictionary* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Search Bilingual Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Search Unilingual Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add New Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Duplicate Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Edit SignWriting in SWEditor 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Edit Image in ImageEditor 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Import 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Export 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy/Paste SignWriting 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy/Paste Picture of Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy/Paste Photo 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	SignLanguage to SignLanguage 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Synonyms 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Antonyms 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign one must not confuse with 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Definition 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Example 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Parts-of-Speech 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Mnemonic 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SWDocument* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Edit SignWriting in SWEditor 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add Sign from Dictionary 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Edit Image in ImageEditor 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add Image from File 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Remove Sign/Image 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Move Sign/Image 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy Sign to Clipboard 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Move Drag and Drop 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Switch Sign Lanes 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Set Sign Bottom Margin 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Edit Gloss 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy Image to Clipboard 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Save Sign back to Dictionary 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Symbol and Sign Gloss tool tip 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Save/Load Document 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Import 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Export 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Print 	Needs work
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Print Preview 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Page Setup 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Show/Hide glosses 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Start new column 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SWEditor* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Spread Symbols 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Setup Offsets for all heads 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Torso Symbol Chooser 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	EyeGaze Symbol Chooser 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Favority Sign Parts 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Listing of all Symbol Groups 	Needs Work 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Arrow Symbol Chooser 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Change Symbol Color 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy/Paste SignWriting 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Change Frames 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Change Background Color 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Copy Image of Sign 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Undo/Redo 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Hand Shape Search 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Remove/Choose Favorite Symbol 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Mouseless Writing 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Hand Symbol Chooser 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Hand Shape Rotation/Fill Chooser 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Add/Remove/Order Sequence 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	General Symbol Chooser 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Overlap Symbols 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Symbol Drag and Drop 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Duplicate Symbols 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Change Symbol size 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Multiple Symbol Selection 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Move Symbol Above/Below 	Working 	
>>> *SWSearch* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Exact Match 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Group Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Fill Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Rotation Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Any Match 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Synonym Symbol in other plane 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Sign Similarity 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Working 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SWQuizes* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Multiple Choice SignWriting 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Multiple Choice Gloss 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Keyboard Shortcuts 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	Not yet implemented 	
>>> *SWAnimation* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	SignWriting to Animation Files 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	In Future version 	
>>> *SWAvatar* 	
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> *
>>> * 	SignWriting to Avatar script 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Help 	In Future version 	
>>> *
>>> * 	Globalized 	In Future version 	
>>> *SWReceptive* 	Expresive to Receptive 	In Future version 	
>>>
>>>
>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> All the features mentioned are exactly what I need, but the most imp one
>>>> is that when you add a column of signwriting in the middle of the
>>>> document, all following columns move to accomodate it.  Like writing
>>>> spoken languages in Word, you can insert a paragraph wherever you like and
>>>> everything else moves to accomodate it (I don't know what this is called
>>>> in technical terms, I'm sure there is a word for it :)
>>>>
>>>> So you are working on a program for signwriting documents?
>>>>
>>>> What about the option of printing A5 is that possible in this program?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your response,
>>>>
>>>> Maria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>>     I don't know of any other program yet.  Mine is progressing but
>>>>> unfinished.  My document suite lets the document flow on the screen from
>>>>> one column to the next.  I haven't done the printing part yet but was
>>>>> intending to do it in similar fashion. So when you add some text, what
>>>>> doesn't fit on one page flows to the next, etc.   The idea is also to be
>>>>> able to have inline pictures within any of the 3 lanes of the column.  I
>>>>> can also have gloss on the signwriting or not.
>>>>>     Is this what you were wanting?  What other editing features would be
>>>>> important for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> MARIA AZZOPARDI wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone on the list has experience transferring long
>>>>>> signwriting documents into another program (such as DocumentMaker) and
>>>>>> maybe could suggest another program which is a little more flexible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DocumentMaker is very good of course, however I am thinking in terms of
>>>>>> very long documents and one limitation in DocumentMaker is the
>>>>>> following:
>>>>>> Say you have completed 50 pages, then whilst editing you realise you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to add another column somewhere inbetween, say at page 25, if you add
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> column there at page 25, all that follows does not change (because each
>>>>>> page is saved separately). It would be really good if there was a
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> that allowed for this flexibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maria
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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