Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)
Ingvild Roald
iroald at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 20 13:41:39 UTC 2009
For handwriting at least, this is obviously easier. It also is consistent with the way we write tha back of the head (but then we usually see the back of the head if we are standing behind the signer ... hmmm ... not so sure of the consistency after all).
Anyway, these new symbols are clear and nice, and if they are there in the computer program, they would not be difficult to use
Ingvild
From: Charles Butler
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM
To: SignWriting List
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)
Would not having a "facial turn" arc serve better rather than having a whole new stack of heads. That way it could be moved around to any side of the face to show that the whole head and body turns without adding more heads to the system.
I'm thinking of something like this.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29:22 PM
Subject: [sw-l] Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)
SignWriting List
March 17, 2009
Hello Everyone, and Cherie and Adam!
As you all know, Cherie Wren's Cat in the Hat is a real special document:
Cat in the Hat in ASL
http://www.signwriting.org/library/children/CatHat.html
And this month, on March 27th and 28th, Cherie will be presenting a SignWriting workshop on the Cat in the Hat in American Sign Language, which Cherie translated, signed on video, and wrote from video in SignPuddle on the web... a true classic...
I hope some of you can attend the workshop in Alabama...the registration form is on the front page of our web site:
Cat in the Hat workshop
download flyer
http://www.SignWriting.org
Anyway...the Cat in the Hat had influence on the International SignWriting Alphabet (the ISWA 2008), because while I was finalizing the ISWA, Cherie was writing the document in SignPuddle, and I could see that certain symbols were needed to make the writing of storytelling better...so now, before the upcoming workshop, I am going through some of the pages in Cat in the Hat to find some areas where some of the new ISWA symbols might make the document more up to date...Cherie gave me permission to do this and I have been enjoying reviewing the document, but will not make changes without being sure ;-)
Here attached is one new area that i think has great promise...we have some new symbols in the ISWA for "the head turned to face the front corner"...We never had these before, so this is something new...We can now differentiate between the head facing straight forward, which is the simple Facial or Head Circle....and the body and head facing the front corner. When facing the front corner, the head and shoulders become darker on the side that is closest to the reader (the reader is standing behind the signer)...so when the body faces the corner we can now show that the head is facing the corner too, without using arrows to show the head is turning.
This is good because the arrows are supposed to show a true neck movement turning the nose, but if the whole body faces the front corner, then the neck is not stretching and turning...it is just facing the front corner in a neutral way...This is kind of hard to explain but I tried in this attached diagram...I have not made these changes in your original document, Cherie, but in a copy instead, and if it is ok with you, I would like to change the heads that "face the front corner" to the new heads with the darker rim, rather than having arrows on top of the heads...we don't have to update the document if you don't want to, but at least I want to inform you...I can make the changes with your permission...
Thanks for the great document!!
See attached...
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