Sign for SignPuddle

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
May 25, 2009

On May 25, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Ronald Dettloff wrote:
> Does heel view mean looking from the floor up?

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Good morning Everyone!

Here is a diagram:

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And thanks for all your comments about the Heel of Hand view.

The Heel of Hand is new to most of you, so no worries....It is an old  
symbol that has been revived for a reason...although it is not a  
requirement to use it, because technically the writing system could  
already write these positions from the Top View, it does help to write  
some rare signs, like BOAT and SLANTED-ROOF and a few other signs that  
are very hard to write, plus, an added benefit is that for some  
people, it is easier to read in other signs as well...

But the Top View has been well documented and presented already in  
textbooks, and therefore is clearly understood worldwide...

That is why Adam is doing all the photos of all the handshapes in the  
ISWA and preparing the animated GIFs of each handshape, so we can  
document all the new symbols, as well as the old ones, for future  
generations of signwriters...

And no one is required to use the Heel of Hand symbol...it is only  
there for those who want to use it...

Adam has not finished the photos and animated gifs for the Heel of  
Hand yet, but Adam, can you find some photos of the Heel of Hand and  
post it to the SignWriting List right now? That would be very helpful  
for this discussion...

To answer your question, Ron....

No. The Heel of Hand does not mean looking from the floor up.

The Heel of Hand is the "Front View of a Hand Parallel to the Floor".  
You view the wrist, with the hand hidden behind it, since the hand is  
projecting forward, parallel to the floor, you cannot see the fingers  
very well because they are hiding behind your view of your own wrist.

With a pointed tip, you know you are looking at the full Flat Hand  
symbol....but without a pointed tip, the fingers are projecting  
forward and the tip of the fingers are "hiding" behind the wrist...the  
Heel of the Hand:



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> From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
> To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:12:52 PM
> Subject: [sw-l] Sign for SignPuddle
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> I am in San Diego with Valerie doing various work. We were talking  
> about a sign for SignPuddle in ASL, and I came up with two versions  
> of writing the same sign. Essentially it mean to throw signs  
> together in one place. I felt that was more accurate to what  
> SignPuddle means than to say an actual rain puddle since the meaning  
> here is more a collecting of signs rather than raindrops into a  
> puddle. Now the reason for the two versions is because I wanted to  
> try out how it reads with the top view verses the heel view. I  
> personally like the look and feel of the heel view. What do you all  
> think? Here are the two versions, first with the second part of the  
> sign in top view and then in heel view. Or you can go to SignPuddle  
> and find them at http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=10105,10106&search=signpuddle&type=any
>
> Adam
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