AW: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction

[Adam Frost]

Oh Stefan,

It is funny that you bring this up because Val and I were discussing  
this very issue the other day. As we were talking about it, we found a  
general situation that causes issues. Val and I realize that the  
reason this is a confusing area is because it has never been explained  
before. Partly because we didn't realize that it causes problems. It  
wasn't until I was placing the symbols next to photos that we saw  
it. ;-)

My guess is Val is doing the same at this moment, but I will go ahead  
and create a lesson explaining this situation since it helps to have  
things taught in two different ways in case one way doesn't explain  
enough. So look for my lesson in the next message. :-)

Adam

On May 31, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.d 
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> Hello Valerie and Everyone,
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> First of all - thank you so much for your kind support ...
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> Obviously this SW-symbol for the “Namibia” - handshape seems to  
> be another one that is hard for me to understand. What is the reason 
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> I just thought of these pictures ???
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> Is it possible that some handshape – symbols are difficult to unders 
> tand for me because I cannot identify YOUR way to look at the hand?  
> Smile -
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> You can look at them in a different way – smile.
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> – a joung lady or an old lady?
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> Nevertheless I would love to understand your explanation –
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> I prepared two graphics – coming next message
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> Stefan ;-)
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
> ] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 15:58
> An: SignWriting List
> Cc: Stefan Wöhrmann
> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Namibia handshape construction
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> SignWriting List
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> May 31, 2009
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> Hello Stefan and Everyone!
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> Thank you for this question. And your photos and writings are always
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> so beautiful! Congrats on all you are doing, Stefan....
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> Regarding the handshape in SignWriting...
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> The photo of your hand is different than the writing of the handshape
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> you are showing in the SignWriting example you have attached...The
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> thumb is to the side in your photo...not forward...
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> So basing it on the photo with the thumb to the side, we have that
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> handshape already in the ISWA....I know you will be creating TrueType
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> fonts, and that is great...but I am happy it is in the ISWA too, so I
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> can show you what I mean...please see my attached screen capture...the
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> handshape is in Group 9...the thumb to the side needs the thumb line
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> on the other side of the rectangle base from the index finger, because
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> when the thumb line is on the same side as the bent Index finger, that
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> would show that the thumb and the index finger are relating to each
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> other and it means that the thumb line is forward pointing in the same
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> direction as the Index finger...So if you want the thumb to look like
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> it is pointing in another direction other than the index finger, you
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> need the thumb line on the other side of the rectangle base of the
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> hand...please see my attached diagram:
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