AW: Manchester

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Suzanne pach <Suzanne at bordvoorjekop.nl>wrote:

> I would go for variation A, but I only just gained my BSL
> level 1 certification, so I might not be the best person
> to ask.. :)


My SW skills are very very very rusty these days but I'm not sure that the
SW variants are correct. The .M. has the non-dominant hand (effectively)
parallel to the floor. But the .C. is (effectivley) parallel to the wall.So
SW variants B and C would be incorrect. There is no semantic difference, in
this name sign, between the use of single .C. and the full .C. so the
pictures for SW Variants A and C are both okay.

PS Well done Suzanne on getting BSL Level 1. I'm studying for Level 3 at the
moment.


>
> Good Luck!
>
> Suzanne
>
> PS Talking about Manchester makes me think of the
> SW-project that maybe was going to take place around
> Manchester, but that couldn't get started yet because of
> the (lack of) funding. Have there been any new
> developments lately?
>
>
>
> > Hi Stefan,
> > The non-dominant hand in M is parallel to the floor and
> > the C hand in the
> > sign MANCHESTER is a full hand.
> > I think that would be the M from 'Variation A' and the C
> > from 'Variation C'
> > ??
> > Although as you can see the examples you have found
> > online, the hanshape of
> > the dominanthand (left hand) varies.
> > The citation form would look like I have described above
> > but this changes
> > when found in a phrase.
> > Thanks,
> > Alison
> >
> > 2009/5/18 Stefan W�hrmann <stefanwoehrmann at googlemail.com>
> >
> >>  Hi Alison, Trevor ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> this is terriffic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you soo much for your quick answer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well now � signwriters are the sharp-eye signers � smile
> >> . I looked up
> >> various sources and there are quite obvious differences
> >> in the performance
> >> of the two �letters�  It is not easy to express all
> >> information for the
> >> parameters in a drawing ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you give your feedback once more?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Stefan ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Variation A:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.deafsign.com/ds/fingerspell/fs_b2h_trans.cfm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Variation B:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.aspexdesign.co.uk/bsl.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Both hands parallel to the floor
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Variation C:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.deafblind.com/deafsign.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Both hands parallel to the wall
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So can you tell me
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *Von:* alisonvere at gmail.com
> >> [mailto:alisonvere at gmail.com]
> >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 18. Mai 2009 16:43
> >> *An:* stefanwoehrmann at googlemail.com
> >> *Betreff:* SW: Manchester
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Stefan,
> >>
> >> I am very new to the idea of signwriting and am still
> >> learning the basics.
> >>
> >> The sign for Manchester used in Manchester by Deaf
> >> people is M-C from the
> >> BSL 2-handed fingerspelling alphabet produced in neutral
> >> space.
> >>
> >> Here is my attempt at signwriting it...
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Alison
> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Load message into
> >> SignText<
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/signtext.html?list=01-05-012-01-04-08,95,163,01-06-005-01-06-02,119,171,02-01-001-01-01-01,105,170,01-05-029-02-02-01,155,153,,0%0d%0a%0D%0A
> >
> >>
> >> Courtesy of SignBank.org <http://www.signbank.org/>
> >>
> >> 442c1d694addc2db5402c2aea534f2a2 =
> >> 442c1d694addc2db5402c2aea534f2a2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > Alison Vere
> > alisonvere at gmail.com
> >
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> >
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-- 
Regards, Trevor.

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