An interesting query on Non-Dominant Hands (NDH)

[Adam Frost]

I completely agree. I would love to see more of a Webster of the  
American Sign Language sort of thing going, but I feel that the online  
puddle wouldn't be the place for that unless it was limited to a few  
editors. And besides that, most people don't know that sort of  
information to input it much less even seem to care. If I had all the  
time in the world and unlimited resources, that is the sort of thing  
that I would do. ;-)

Adam

On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Yes, or a discussion of history of particular signs.  I guess we  
> need more documentation of usage in our definitions.
>
> Charles
>
> From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
> To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 10:29:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] An interesting query on Non-Dominant Hands (NDH)
>
> Yup. That's what I said. ;-) So are you asking where the "C" base is  
> in SignPuddle?
>
> Adam
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:08 PM, "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> The ASL Teacher list serve asked this question.  What shape is the  
>> Non-Dominant Hand in the sign "church".
>>
>> That is  a very interesting question, one that I have asked before  
>> to some
>> of my fellow  deafies in my community. I have seen the NDH being a  
>> C as you
>> said, as well as  a fist and a flat hand. The most memorable is  
>> when I asked
>> my friend who is  very pious which it should be for CHURCH. He said  
>> that if
>> you sign church on a  flat hand, you have a weak foundation; if you  
>> sign it
>> on a fist, you have a  firm foundation. When I asked about it with  
>> a C, he
>> said then you have a weak  foundation lazily placed. Then I joked  
>> with him
>> and said that maybe it was a  weak foundation trying to look like a  
>> firm one.
>> He laughed at that one. The  point being from what I have gathered  
>> from him
>> and several others is that it  really doesn't matter which of the  
>> three you
>> use when just chatting, but when  in a very formal setting to use  
>> the fist
>> base. Now whether you are teaching  your students to be apart of  
>> t_he Deaf
>> community socially or professionally  will help you decide which to  
>> teach.
>>
>> MY Comment:
>>
>> Here is what I find on SignPuddle -- with flat hand and with fist.
>>
>>
>> church
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign: Reader
>> Modified: September 18, 2008 08:38
>>
>>
>>
>> church
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign: Reader
>> Source: Vanessa J.
>> Modified: September 18, 2008 08:41
>> Puddle page 7401
>>
>>
>> >From what I have noticed is that SN tries  to find a happy middle  
>> for those
>> who may be unsure or don't want to limit to  one or the other without
>> overloading students with too many options. Hope that  helps.
>>
>>
>>
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