SignWriting on Bing

Mon Nov 30 17:32:32 UTC 2009

Hoi,
The CLDR is the Common Locale Data Repository.. In this code you define how
you call yourself, how you write a date, how you call other languages, how
you write numbers etc.. Obviously ASL with SignWriting will need to be
included in this standard at some stage. What I do not know is if they
require Unicode ... The CLDR is after all a Unicode standard.

One problem with using the asl code in your meta data is that officially it
is the code for the Asilulu language.. so when you use this code, it will
make it harder to find text in that language.
Thanks,
      Gerard

http://cldr.unicode.org/
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=asl

2009/11/30 Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>

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> November 30, 2009
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> Thank you for this information, Gerard!
>
> I think the code ASE is fine for computers. You are using that code
> perfectly when you list it in a URL. The only point I was making long ago,
> is that in casual conversation among users of the language, they still call
> their language ASL...so the code is simply different than the conversational
> name of the language...
>
> Just as when we speak English, we call the language "English, but the code
> in computers is EN. We don't say we speak EN in conversations, but in
> computers the coding EN is perfect...so conversation and coding are two
> different worlds and that is accepted...
>
> I realize I should start using ASE for names of files in our web
> sites...but I know that people search in keywords for the keyboard "asl" or
> "ASL" most...they do not search for ASE when they want to find a book or
> document, so it is a catch 22...I know this because you can test keyword
> searches in Google, and in the sign language searches people search for
> "asl" or "ASL" most...not ASE....so again it is a matter of how the coding
> is used...
>
> What is CLDR?
>
> Val ;-)
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> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
>  Hoi,
>> In the past I used for American Sign Language the ase code. This is the
>> code that Google, Bing, Yahoo et al use to identify a language you know as
>> ASL. When you get an ASL Wikipedia, the code for that language will be
>> http://ase.wikipedia.org.
>>
>> I appreciate your argument that many people will not like this code, it is
>> however the code that is part of the applicable standard. The use of the
>> code can be hidden from view in documents. The code is the same for any
>> written form of ASL. It is possible, not necessary, to further identify the
>> script used. The funny thing is, that as far as I am aware only SignWriting
>> has been registered with yet another standard, the CLDR.
>>
>> The most specific code for ASL written in sign writing is ase-Sgnw
>> Thanks,
>>      GerardM
>>
>> 2009/11/30 SignWriting <signwriting at mac.com>
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>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:32 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> When you post on the Internet, is there a code that identifies a text as
>> ASL or better even as SignWriting ? It is one of the easiest and more
>> obvious ways of helping search engines.. All that it takes is including a
>> code as meta data in the document.
>> Thanks, Gerard
>>
>> Hello Gerard!
>> At the moment, we are not there yet. Of course we post documents written
>> in ASL or any other sign language all the time...literally hundreds if not
>> thousands have already been posted by me, in our SignWriting Archives, and
>> by others of course, and all those documents are in PDF format, so the
>> directories grab the spoken language information in the PDF used to give the
>> PDF a title, and so it is listed in Google...we are posting documents in
>> written sign languages, but using spoken languages to list the titles in the
>> internet directories...
>>
>> Google is in many countries and languages...so in time, when we are ready,
>> i had planned to ask them to help us make written sign languages available
>> in the titles of the Google listings...just haven't gotten there yet...
>>
>> Google, I understand, is around 80 per cent of the directory usage in the
>> world, so I would love to work with them someday on this issue...
>>
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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