SW-L Digest, Vol 27, Issue 65

Fri Oct 23 01:14:42 UTC 2009

Charles, I'm glad to hear that you found the SignWriting readable!

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Erika Hoffmann <erhoffma at oberlin.edu>wrote:

> Wow, Stefan! It's really interesting to see the excerpt written with the
> mouthing! Thanks for doing that!
> Best,
> Erika
>
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>>   1. Re: Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW visit
>>      (Charles Butler)
>>   2. AW: [sw-l] Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW
>>      visit (Stefan W?hrmann)
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW
>> visit
>> I have no problem reading your writing.
>>
>> Charles Butler
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 10/22/09, Erika Hoffmann <erhoffma at oberlin.edu>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Erika Hoffmann <erhoffma at oberlin.edu>
>> Subject: [sw-l] Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW visit
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 3:18 PM
>>
>> Hello again - sorry for the brief silence. I'm at a new job so I have
>> a new email and needed to update my membership in the list.
>>
>> In reply to my last message Val asked: And what about your actual
>> Nepali Sign Language writing? Do you have any samples? I notice we do
>> not have a Nepali SignPuddle and I am really surprised...how did you
>> write your documents?"
>>
>> I'm not sure if  my project works well with Puddles because I'm not
>> trying to document NSL per se, or create dictionary listings. Rather,
>> I've been using SSW to create transcripts of conversational
>> interactions - so in order to reflect the formal properties of what's
>> going on I can't use citation forms. I used the signwriting tool on
>> the website to create my transcripts.
>>
>> At Stefan's suggestion I'm passing along some material I sent him last
>> week. I've attached a pdf of an article I've written for the Journal
>> of Linguistic Anthropology. I'm also sending a link to the journal's
>> web page, where I've also got video (re-enacted for the privacy of my
>> participants) and SSW transcripts to supplement the English glosses in
>> the print journal.
>> I'm sure you will find many errors in my Signwriting, but I had to
>> work quickly with the editor to arrange for this special supplement.
>> Also, you'll note that I am writing from the receptive rather than
>> productive viewpoint. I agree that writing from the productive
>> viewpoint is preferable, but the receptive viewpoint is more in
>> keeping with the way that data would be presented in this journal. It
>> has been quite difficult to work with traditional journal formats to
>> get the SSW transcripts included, but I think it's extremely
>> important. One thing I was quite pleased about is that, in the actual
>> journal text, the SSW for the lexical items appears on the same line
>> as the English glosses, rather than on the same plane as the
>> illustrations from the NSL dictionary, which helps with readers'
>> ability to see that the SSW is writing and not an illustration.
>>
>> http://linguisticanthropology.org/web-enhanced-articles/web-enhanced-article-metasemiotic-regimentation-in-the-standardization-of-nepali-sign-language/
>>
>> As you will see from the errors I have surely made in my transcripts,
>> I would benefit from visiting some more experienced SignWriters, not
>> only in order to bolster my ability to write about SSW but also to use
>> it well. I received a very short training from James Shepard in 2003,
>> but since then I have been working with it on my own (with occasional
>> questions for the list). Therefore the seminar Val mentioned before is
>> something I would be very interested in attending!
>> And thank you Val for the suggestions about places and people I might
>> visit.
>>
>> Best,
>> Erika
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Stefan Wöhrmann" <stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de>
>> To: "'SignWriting List'" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:27:47 +0200
>> Subject: AW: [sw-l] Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW
>> visit
>> Hi Erika and listmembers,
>>
>> thanks for this message.
>>
>> As I mentioned before- I spent several hours to study your article and
>> your
>> videos. It has been so fascinating to look carefully at the videos and to
>> learn more about this confusion that can be result from different
>> "messages"
>> coming from the "manual SL channel" and the "spoken word" channel ...
>>
>> It has been so much fun to understand the reason for the "grass" answer of
>> the student. ...
>>
>> I sat down to transcribe this second video including "Mundbilder".
>> Especially this kind of "performance" is an interesting challenge for this
>> kind of transcription. I wrote this document with the good old SignWriter
>> 4.4
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Stefan ;-)
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Erika
>> Hoffmann
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 21:19
>> An: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Betreff: [sw-l] Nepali Sign Language article using SignWriting/SSW visit
>>
>> Hello again - sorry for the brief silence. I'm at a new job so I have
>> a new email and needed to update my membership in the list.
>>
>> In reply to my last message Val asked: And what about your actual
>> Nepali Sign Language writing? Do you have any samples? I notice we do
>> not have a Nepali SignPuddle and I am really surprised...how did you
>> write your documents?"
>>
>> I'm not sure if  my project works well with Puddles because I'm not
>> trying to document NSL per se, or create dictionary listings. Rather,
>> I've been using SSW to create transcripts of conversational
>> interactions - so in order to reflect the formal properties of what's
>> going on I can't use citation forms. I used the signwriting tool on
>> the website to create my transcripts.
>>
>> At Stefan's suggestion I'm passing along some material I sent him last
>> week. I've attached a pdf of an article I've written for the Journal
>> of Linguistic Anthropology. I'm also sending a link to the journal's
>> web page, where I've also got video (re-enacted for the privacy of my
>> participants) and SSW transcripts to supplement the English glosses in
>> the print journal.
>> I'm sure you will find many errors in my Signwriting, but I had to
>> work quickly with the editor to arrange for this special supplement.
>> Also, you'll note that I am writing from the receptive rather than
>> productive viewpoint. I agree that writing from the productive
>> viewpoint is preferable, but the receptive viewpoint is more in
>> keeping with the way that data would be presented in this journal. It
>> has been quite difficult to work with traditional journal formats to
>> get the SSW transcripts included, but I think it's extremely
>> important. One thing I was quite pleased about is that, in the actual
>> journal text, the SSW for the lexical items appears on the same line
>> as the English glosses, rather than on the same plane as the
>> illustrations from the NSL dictionary, which helps with readers'
>> ability to see that the SSW is writing and not an illustration.
>>
>> http://linguisticanthropology.org/web-enhanced-articles/web-enhanced-article
>>
>> -metasemiotic-regimentation-in-the-standardization-of-nepali-sign-language/<http://linguisticanthropology.org/web-enhanced-articles/web-enhanced-article%0A-metasemiotic-regimentation-in-the-standardization-of-nepali-sign-language/>
>>
>> As you will see from the errors I have surely made in my transcripts,
>> I would benefit from visiting some more experienced SignWriters, not
>> only in order to bolster my ability to write about SSW but also to use
>> it well. I received a very short training from James Shepard in 2003,
>> but since then I have been working with it on my own (with occasional
>> questions for the list). Therefore the seminar Val mentioned before is
>> something I would be very interested in attending!
>> And thank you Val for the suggestions about places and people I might
>> visit.
>>
>> Best,
>> Erika
>>
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