[DEAF] Without ASL, English is IMPOSSIBLE!
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October 13, 2009
Glad you enjoyed the video, and Adam's translation, Charles.
And many thanks again to Adam for translating the entire video - that
was soooo helpful for all of us! In my case, I do fine with
understanding the ASL signs and grammar, except for one very big
problem...I have trouble reading fingerspelling...and when you miss
the fingerspelling, you can miss the whole point of what they are
trying to say...so that is my weakness - fingerspelling - I think
without that problem, I could do voice interpreting, but because of
it, I would never dare...what is so funny about this is that when
sitting down and reading a book in ASL written in SignWriting...or for
example...Adam's blog that has a lot of fingerspelling symbols...just
because I know the symbols themselves does not mean that I read the
fingerspelling in SignWriting any better than I do in real life when
watching a person fingerspell....I have the same problem reading
fingerspelling quickly, whether it is in writing or in conversation ;-))
Adam's Blog
http://frostvillage.com/blog/lang/ase/
Anyway, I am now on Twitter, and YouTube and Facebook so I will write
soon to give you all the information about that -
The SignWriting List remains the central List for learning and
discussing SignWriting however!
Val ;-)
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On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Charles Butler wrote:
> And with sign writing that cuts it down to very easy comparisons.
>
> We should partner with this person because this kind of VLOG could
> definitely get attention. I understood most of what he was signing
> (maybe I'm a quick study).
>
> Charles
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>
> From: Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> Subject: [sw-l] [DEAF] Without ASL, English is IMPOSSIBLE!
> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Cc: lagunazurfer at gmail.com
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 3:47 PM
>
> SignWriting List
> October 12, 2009
>
> WOW! Adam -- Thank you! This is wonderful!
>
> Val ;-)
>
> --------
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
>
> > Here is the translation of the YouTube "ZURFER: Without ASL,
> English is I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E!"
> >
> > --Adam
> >
> > "Without ASL, English is I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E!"
> >
> > Hello, how is everyone doing? Good.
> >
> > Let me tell you a little about myself first. My names is James
> Kittell. I am the owner of ASLMedia. And as you may or not know,
> ASLMedia runs the ASLExpo.
> >
> > "ASLE"
> >
> > I know that you might be thinking what ASLE stands for. ASLE means
> ASL towards English. In response to SEE (Signing Exact English), we
> have created ASLE. But what exactly is ASLE you ask? It is signing
> in ASL to fit with English. We purpose the use of ASLE to deaf
> children in schools as well as deaf people outside of the school
> because of the struggles with English competency in writing. We will
> explain the principles of basic English. By doing so, the deaf
> individual will have a clear understanding of English. For example,
> when a teacher is teaching the sentence "A ball is rolling," most
> deaf individuals will still struggle with that simple sentence even
> with 18 years of schooling. This struggle will continue the rest of
> most of these deaf individuals' lives.
> >
> > We here at ASLMedia have researched how to improve this situation.
> One thing that we noticed was that deaf people in general are very
> skilled in manual labor such as mechanics or sewing. When we looked
> into why this is the case, we found that deaf people learned these
> trades by someone visually showing and explaining how to perform the
> tasks. The visual component is a very important aspect of this
> process. But when teaching English, too often the teachers will
> write the sentence on the board and sign in an MCE such as SEE,
> Total Communication, PSE, or even cued speech to explain the
> sentence. The deaf student is left to confusion as to what the
> meaning of the sentence, "A ball is rolling." This is because there
> is no visual component to the explanation during any of the 18 years
> of schooling, or any other time for that matter. When you see what
> ASLE is, you will wished that you were taught this back in elementary.
> >
> > In schools across the nation today, most refuse to use ASL in
> their instructions. They feel that the use of an MCE is far
> superior, but this leaves most deaf people incompetent in reading
> and writing English. Don't think that it is their fault because it
> is not. The teachers are left without proper resources on how to
> teach English through ASL to help the deaf student understand the
> basics while they are still in elementary school. If they did, we
> wouldn't see this epidemic that we have of with the deaf and English.
> >
> > Now, ASLE was supposed to be unveiled at the ASLExpo, but we were
> forced to hold off due to the lack of sponsors. So I will
> demonstrate ASLE to you here. It won't take that long. After 30
> seconds at the most, you (as the deaf individual) will be saying to
> yourself that this isn't hard at all. You will finally feel that you
> can build up to reading anything in English. I will give your a
> taste in this Vlog now, but I will continue to post most in the
> future. In exchange, I would like for you to call for sponsors and
> help ASLE be presented at the future ASLExpo to get the word out
> there to deaf people, so that they can finally realize that they can
> develop their English literacy skill within a few short months. The
> way that ASLE will do this is with a DVD that will teach basic
> English skills in very little time at all. That time can be within
> the 1 to 3 month range very easily depending on the motivation. So,
> are you ready?
> >
> > Here is a ball to demonstrate the sentence "A ball is rolling."
> Now the sentence says "is" and"-ing". (Rolls ball back and forth a
> couple times.) When the ball is rolling, the action is suffixed with
> -ing. It is always when something is in the process of moving that
> the affix -ing is used. Always!
> >
> > This and that. What is the difference between the two? (Points to
> a book) Here is a book that is close to me. When referring to it, we
> use "this". (Pushes book away) When it is away from me, we use
> "that". (Brings book back) When the book is close like so, the
> sentence "This is my book," uses the word "this". (Pushes book away)
> When the book is far, or taken away, "That is my book," uses "that".
> Get it?
> >
> > Now I will explain the difference between these and those.
> Remember how this and that was with only one book. Now I have here
> more than one book. (Brings a stack of three books into view) When
> the books are close, we use the word "these" to say, "These are my
> books." (Pushes books away) When far away, we use "those" for the
> sentence, "Those are my books." So when someone takes your books and
> you say, "those are my books," you use the word "those". So "these"
> is for things close, and "those" is for things far. Remember that
> "these" and "those" are only used with multiple things, at least two.
> >
> > Many and much. What is the difference between "many" and "much"?
> Notice when I sign "many" that I am throwing my fingers open as if
> to count. But when I sign "much", I am only showing the overall size
> of the unit. So when using "many", it means that you can count the
> objects. But when using "much" it is impossible to count. For
> example, when there are many cars, you could count each car
> individually but don't for the sake of time. The same could be said
> with children, "many children". If I were to ask you, "how many
> children were there?" you could count and answer that there were a
> specific number such as 400 children. Now with "much", let's say
> that we had too much milk. We wouldn't be able to grab a microscope
> and count each particle of milk since it would be well into the
> millions range. Or let's say we went to the beach and tried to count
> all the sand particles. It would be impossible to answer the
> question of how many sand particles because there are just too many,
> so the question would have to be how much sand. The same could be
> said with the water in the ocean. Air is in the same category. You
> wouldn't be able to grab a microscope and count till the end of
> time. So air, water, sand, sugar, honey, coffee, and milk are used
> with "much". So, "many" is when you could count everything, but
> don't just to be quick. "much" is when there would be no way that
> you could count everything.
> >
> > Well, you have just seen 4 different lessons. They weren't that
> long at all. You have seen ASLE. I didn't use SEE, speech (oral),
> Total Communication, or PSE. I used ASL to teach English. I am sure
> that you were able to understand everything very clearly. I will be
> posting more Vlog with lessons teaching English like these. They are
> all very fast and simple, and in exchange I am asking for your help
> in getting sponsors so that we can give DVDs out at the next
> ASLExpo. There are 3 DVDs that have 78 lessons, but the total play
> time is not 78 hours. It is only 4 1/2 hours! Each lesson is very
> short. You will be able to play through each lesson from beginning
> to end, and your writing will greatly improve because you understand
> basic rules of English and not rote memorizations.
> >
> > "Please leave a comment here on YouTube and show this to your
> friends and relatives. That you for your support! www.aslexpo.com www.aslmedia.com
> "
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
> >
> >> same problem with me.....
> >>
> >> Anny
> >> Le 12 oct. 09 à 08:46, Stefan Wöhrmann a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi Valerie and listmembers,
> >>> unfortunately I cannot understand what he is talking/signing
> about.
> >>> Is there anywhere a short translation?
> >>> I can imagine that it has something to do with my favourite
> concept of teaching deaf children. Bilingual including SignWriting
> and the written form of the spoken language – smile.
> >>>
> >>> Stefan ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> ] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Oktober 2009 17:08
> >>> An: SignWriting List
> >>> Cc: lagunazurfer at gmail.com
> >>> Betreff: [sw-l] Fwd: [DEAF] Without ASL, English is IMPOSSIBLE!
> >>>
> >>> SignWriting List
> >>> October 11, 2009
> >>>
> >>> Dear SW List Members...
> >>>
> >>> I received this message this morning. Interesting video...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>> Without ASL, English is I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E!
> >>> Watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veTHjmk3bx8
> >>>
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