receptive vs. expressive - history?

[Tini Pel]

You might be right at that Charles about 1978. I sometimes do get  
mixed up about dates  in my old age.
Tini.



On 21-Oct-09, at 9:25 AM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Ah, that's a bit of information I have not had, as I learned from  
> Valerie directly between 1978 and 1981.  We both were switching  
> over to expressive at that point.
>
> Charles
>
> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Tini Pel <tinipel at onlink.net> wrote:
>
> From: Tini Pel <tinipel at onlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] receptive vs. expressive - history?
> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 9:04 AM
>
> Hi Charles,
> Just a little note:
> I write dance writing being behind the dancer, or I become the  
> dancer. Since  the early ' 70-tees.
> Have a great day
>
> L.I.F.E.
>
> Tini.
>
>
>
> On 20-Oct-09, at 11:37 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
>
>> For me, I learned receptive first, so it was literally "write what  
>> you see" when you are seeing someone else's hands.  Then when they  
>> switched, I considered it an extension.  I just teach "write what  
>> you see".  Then receptive is for transcribing something brand new  
>> if you don't know the meaning, and then expressive when you have  
>> moved it to your own hands.  Expressive has become the standard  
>> for the dictionaries and most usage.  Dance writing is still,  
>> apparently, receptive.  It took me hours to transcribe video tape  
>> because I think to write what someone else is doing, and then  
>> reverse it to my hands is the challenge.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> --- On Tue, 10/20/09, MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>
>> Subject: [sw-l] receptive vs. expressive - history?
>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 5:13 PM
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was wondering what to do with the receptive and expressive view  
>> points,
>> when teaching signwriting.
>>
>> As teachers of signwriting, would you include this explanation -  
>> or would
>> presenting the two possibilities create a problem that might not  
>> be there.
>>
>> I've found that when I explain how to signwrite the different  
>> orientations
>> I explain the 'expressive viewpt' and never include the receptive  
>> view, so
>> as not to 'teach' them something that I will later have to unteach.
>>
>> do you find that explaining the expressive view and leaving out the
>> 'receptive' writing, acceptable?
>>
>> thanks
>> Maria
>>
>>
>>
>>
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