SignPuddle creating invalid bsw codes?

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Thu Apr 1 16:53:54 UTC 2010 

SignWriting List
April 1, 2010

Hello Alan and Steve!

THANK YOU, Steve, for your amazing work, and for your collaboration on the ISWA 2010 ;-)

I will post more about this new development myself, soon... Thank you for announcing it to us!

Alan, I am the one running the shopping cart and thank you again for your order of the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook...I can certainly mail that to you promptly...

I can also return your money with no problem through PayPal too...so no worries.

First, did you know that you can download the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook for free on the web?

http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/lessonsw/

It is number 2 on the above web page...

Second...

You can also access a web version of the same textbook on the web:

http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/lessonsw/lessonsweb.html

I am always happy to have a sale of the printed book of course, and there is no problem sending it to you, but I think you should know that it is an older book...The Lessons in SignWriting Textbook was last published in 2002. It is a good textbook for that time period, but since that time, there have been new developments that have built upon the past...including my work with the International SignWriting Alphabet (ISWA 2008 and ISWA 2010), new software developments by Steve and others, and Adam Frost has been working on the ISWA Symbol Lessons with animated GIFs on the web:

ISWA Symbol Lessons (only partially done)
http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/iswa/

Adam is traveling to my office in San Diego right now, to work on those animated GIFs...we should have the majority of handshapes up on the web by the end of next week - and then we still need to document the movement symbols etc...

Regarding new updated textbooks...I am working on that project too...There will be a big SignWriting Reference Manual coming, but when I cannot say...The first section of that new book is available for download and sale as well...it is just the first section of a six-section reference manual...This first section is called:

SignWriting Basics Instruction Manual

Download it here:
http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/lessonsw/

Or purchase it here:
http://www.signwriting.org/shop/

So write to me privately about whether you still want to purchase the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook or not - It certainly couldn't hurt to own it, since it is the basis for what we are doing now -

Did we change anything since 2002 when the Lessons in SignWriting textbook was published? yes...smile...but you can still use the 2002 textbook as a guide and it will be useful...

Val ;-)

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On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Alan Post wrote:

> Today I ordered the print copy of sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf
> file, the ~190 full reference to SignWriting.
> 
> I'm looking forward to having a printed reference manual for looking
> up signs.  Did anything change between the 2008 and 2010 versions
> that affects this book?  Should I have waited to purchase it?
> 
> All together, this is fantastic news!  I can't wait for the SWIS
> 2010, particularly if it is still planned to include vector
> graphics.
> 
> Thank you Steve!
> 
> -Alan
> 
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:58:40AM -0500, Steve Slevinski wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> Sorry about that.  This was caused by a flurry of activity that started 
>> after a Friday chat with Val on March 12th.
>> 
>> In 2008, we release the ISWA 2008.   A great symbol set.  I defined BSW 
>> using the ISWA 2008.
>> http://www.signpuddle.net/mediawiki/index.php/ISWA_2008
>> 
>> 
>> Well, the second week in March, I asked Val if we could refactor the 
>> ISWA.  I had several small but significant change requests.  She agreed 
>> to most and mentioned several of her own.  The ISWA 2010 symbols were 
>> finalized March 29 and the BaseSymbol names were finalized the next day.
>> http://www.signpuddle.net/mediawiki/index.php/ISWA_2010
>> 
>> The ISWA 2010 is the greatest SignWriting symbol set ever!  I'm really 
>> proud of the work we've done.  The new ISWA HTML Reference is ready to 
>> read, download and translate.
>> http://signbank.org/iswa/
>> http://signbank.org/iswa.zip
>> 
>> To translate the reference guide, you'll need to download the 
>> internationalization files:
>> http://signbank.org/iswa_dev/iswa.i18n.zip
>> 
>> Simply translate the 2 enclosed files in any text editor and send the 
>> new files back to me.  I'll be able to use the translated files to 
>> create  the ISWA 2010 HTML Reference in the submitted language.
>> 
>> I have also created a MySQL database creation script for the ISWA 2010.  
>> It creates 3 tables: symbolgroups, basesymbols, and symbols.  It 
>> includes detailed information and the symbol images.  I may release a 
>> database version of the SignWriting Image Server.  I'm curious about the 
>> performance differences I'll find.
>> http://signpuddle.net/iswa_2010_sql.zip
>> 
>> 
>> The BSW that you thought was invalid was really BSW 2010.  I will be 
>> migrating SignPuddle to the ISWA 2010 shortly so I was testing my 
>> conversion.  The conversion is working 100% as far as I can tell.  You 
>> can read about the conversion online or download the PHP files.
>> http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert
>> http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert.zip
>> 
>> There is an example conversion page that is very useful.  You can 
>> convert symbol names from the ISWA 2008 to the ISWA 2010.  You can 
>> convert a build string using the ISWA 2008 to BSW 2010.  You can convert 
>> BSW 2008 to BSW 2010.
>> http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/example.php
>> 
>> Currently, the view button uses BSW 2008 and the analyze button uses BSW 
>> 2010.  Both links should work.  I've updated the Binary SignWriting HTML 
>> Reference to use the ISWA 2010.  You can read online or download.
>> http://www.signbank.org/bsw
>> http://www.signbank.org/bsw.zip
>> 
>> I'm currently working on the SignWriting Image Server 2010.  I'm almost 
>> finished and should be releasing it soon.
>> 
>> Thanks for your patience.  Let me know if there's anything else you need.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> -Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
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