Kate's question about reading sequence...

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SignWriting List
February 6, 2010

So in summary, Kate, a sign reader sees the sign as a whole, reading  
the handshape at the beginning of the stemline of the arrow first, and  
following the arrow to the end of the arrowhead, and reading the  
ending position, at the end of the tip arrowhead last. In the third  
sign in your example, the reader reads the handshape at the higher  
position of contact first, because that is where the handshape was  
written, and then it is "assumed" even without an arrowhead, that the  
same handshape, without change of handshape, touches down lower  
second...

Overtime, we have shortened some writings because we are writing for  
"everyday use", and researchers might want more detail...but everyday  
reading doesn't need more information...

For example, in the third sign, which means DEAF in ASL, technically  
that sign can be signed in either direction. If the signer signed it  
starting with the lower contact and finished with the higher contact,  
it would not be wrong...the direction is interchangeable and still  
means the same thing, so that is why the writing is not more detailed  
for everyday use, because it could be either-or....

So for your avatar research, I can certainly understand why you would  
like to have more detail at times...

SignPuddle has a feature called the "SignSpelling Sequence"? It  
provides the data that states which symbol is read first, second and  
third, when searching for signs sorted by Sign-Symbols. That  
information could possibly help you for your avatar research.

If you would like to learn about the SignSpelling Sequences, please  
write again to the List and ask about it...

Thanks for your questions - and best of luck with your project -

Val ;-)

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On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Kate Mc Nulty wrote:

> Dear Val
>
> I'm currently working on a project thats converts sign language that  
> is written in SignWriting to sign language gestures using an avatar.
> I am using the SWML as input to my system.
> My question is that in a case whereby a sign is composed of multiple  
> hand symbols, contact and movement symbols, How do I determine which  
> hand symbols are signed first and what follows thereafter..
> I've attached 3 examples of the above mentioned problem
>
> Also, in a sign that contains touch and movement symbol..
> How can I determine whether touch and move..or move and touch
>
> Thanks
>
> Kate
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