Hands relationship

[Kate]

Thanks Val!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>wrote:

> SignWriting List
> March 6, 2010
>
> Hello Kate -
> Thank you for this message...
>
> Although it is common, that your statements might be true, unfortunately
> this is not always true at all...
>
> SignWriting has special detailed symbols to show "on top of", "to the side
> of", "behind" and so forth, called Surface Symbols, but the Surface Symbols
> are rarely used when writing for everyday use...
>
> Surface Symbols
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less006.html
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less028.html
>
> We used to use Surface Symbols, thinking that signs could not be read
> without them, and I suspect your avatar really needs them, to know the
> details of a sign, but we found for signers who already know the signs,
> reading these signs are not a problem without Surface Symbols, because there
> is still enough written to "recognize" what the sign should be...
>
> Plus, we are learning to write signs better...making the "Position of
> Contact" look more like "overlapping" so we can really see the difference
> between side by side and overlapping in the positioning of the hand symbols,
> but not all signs are written that clearly yet...
>
> So that is why I suspect for avatar programming, you may need more detail
> than we are writing with for everyday use...or at least, you need an edited
> dictionary with these details better written...
>
> In fact, when it comes to writing the Bible and other very large documents
> in written ASL, the trend is toward "simpler writing" for reading quickly,
> rather than the detailed writing of the past...
>
> So now back to this issue:
>
> Here is a sign where both hands are parallel to the floor, but they are
> side by side...neither hand is overlapping the other...the palms are rubbing
> each other:
>
>
>
>
> and here are signs where the hands are parallel to the wall, but are to the
> side of each other. One is not in front of the other:
>
>
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>
> On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Kate wrote:
>
> > Hi Val
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out when are hands infront or above each other.
> >
> > This was my finding, hand symbols parallel to floor overlapping are above
> each other.
> >
> > Hand symbols parallel to wall placed one above the other are in front of
> each other.
> >
> >
> > Regards Kate
>
> >
> >
> >
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