Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Sun Oct 3 16:10:16 UTC 2010

TISLR was fantastic, I just wish I had not been so antsy and having to get back 
so early.

Shane Gilchrist
Ronice Quadros
Lucinda Batch O-Grady
Charles Butler
Eyasu Tamene

These were the people I recognized immediately by face from on line. It was so 
good to be among so many people that are using sign writing even in the face of 
opposition.  I met one professor (name gone) whose doctoral student is doing a 
project on keyboarding SignWriting, which I really believe would be a good 
thing.  I used the SignWriter program in Brazil.

There were so many things that one could do on the old SignWriter program that 
are awkward to do at best.

Fingerspelling is one, you can't simply TYPE and get fingerspelling, you have to 
look up each sign individually.  The old interface was better as you could learn 
to type a sign in at speed without thinking.  A mouse you have to look for 
everything all the time.  

We need to really look at all the developments that are happening in processing 
and find our way back in new computer languages to our old capabilities.

Before, with a swipe of a mouse I could change from English to ASL (or other 
language) fingerspelling, substitute vocabulary in English sentence phrase by 
phrase and eventually end with an ASL sentence in proper grammatical order.

Can't do that on the computer anymore, everything is mouse-mouse-mouse, and no 
interaction between two writing systems.  We do it in space, and on paper, we 
need to be able to do the same thing on computer.


From: Shane K. Gilchrist <shane.gilchrist at GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 1:40:16 AM
Subject: Re: SignWorkshop OASLTA

Don't worry Charles

I used to be one of the skeptics until Belgium's Kathleen & Sara discreetly 
introduced me to SW.

The rest is history.

Sent from my iPad

On 26 Sep 2010, at 20:45, "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> September 26, 2010
> Hello Charles!
> First of all, a big hug from me, and a big THANK YOU for being so brave to 
>present at any conference - It takes courage to present in front of a skeptical 
>audience (if that was what they were...they may not have been)...
> I am sure you did an excellent job and please do not be hard on yourself...
> All presentations help SignWriting, no matter what the reaction, because people 
>become interested later. Even if they express some doubts right now, it is 
>because it is the first time they have heard of it and we all are skeptical 
>about new ideas - but then later, they hear about it a second time from someone 
>else, and they remember the discussions with you the first time they heard about 
>it, and they decide to look into it because now their interest has been 
>stimulated a second time -
> So you have really helped SignWriting no matter what - 
> Thank you for telling us about the presentation so quickly after it happened - 

> And Kelly Jo was there? Wow - that is so great!
> So is there more time at the conference now? It will give you a chance to talk 
>to some of the people with questions - don't worry, Charles, this was a real 
>blessing -
> Val ;-)
> -----
> On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
>> Well, I presented the workshop but I felt that I fell on my face for the 
>>following reasons:
>> 1) Too much information, too little time.
>> 2) Lack of vocabulary, all of the attendees were interpreters AND teachers of 
>>the deaf, and my vocabulary was inadequate to the task.  I should have asked for 
>>help from KJ or another interpreter at the beginning.
>> 3) I got positive responses from a couple of people, but the most common one 
>>was "how many people IN OHIO are using this system", "why should MY students 
>>have to learn anything else?"  Half of them maybe "got it" but the others just 
>>kept with questions.
>> 4) I should have simply linked to the website and gone from there as the 
>>website is informative, answers most of the common questions, and I could have 
>>had a Deaf Advocate actually talking to the group.  
>> Lessons learned, but I feel very small and inadequate right now.
>> Charles Butler
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