AW: Writing signs with centers

Fri Oct 8 11:10:49 UTC 2010

Would it be possible to program a new symbol that would anchor the center of a sign, as the head or the torso do? This symbol should be just a dot on the screen an dissapear (be transparent) when printed or when so chosen. Such a symbol could keep a the flat hand mentioned below in its place.

Ingvild 

Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:31:01 -0700
From: chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Subject: Re: AW: Writing sign sentences in 5 possible directions
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU

In terms of directionality and lanes, I have a query.  Often in transcribing tapes, the head nods or the eyes change direction at a particular point before or after a sign.  It would be easier for me to treat them as punctuation than try to put them in the same box.  In that case, I almost want to put them, alone, in the left lane, as punctuation, and be able to put the sign in the middle lane parallel to the face change.  Same thing happens with hands that are held through a sign.  If I try to put them in a particular place in the box, they are moved to the right or the left rather than being pinned down to the exact same space in each sign I create.  If it's a grid, I want it to be a grid that I can actually say (at point 150,150) so that the hand that is held is where it is like, holding a flat hand vertical and pointing all around it.  The flat hand sits there and the pointer hand moves all over.  It's multiple signs in one sense, or one sign in a writing since.

Any ideas. 

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>
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Subject: AW: Writing sign sentences in 5 possible directions

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October 7, 2010

Hi Steve and Stefan!
Then let's add a feature someday that makes writing in 5 directions possible: vertical, horizontal right-to-left, horizontal-left-to-right, down-diagonal-right and down-diagonal-left. The horizontal, if being written along side Arabic, might want to go from right to left as well as left to right for western spoken languages...

As you can see by the attached screen capture, I included Punctuation Symbols for writing in all 5 directions in the ISWA 2008 and 2010. Why? Because I met one Deaf poet who wanted to write poetry in a diagonal before and needed the Punctuation in a diagonal, and another wrote a poem in a circle ;-)

And portions of the Koran are being written now in Saudi Arabia, so I suppose in time it will be nice to have a horizontal right to left....

So flexibility of writing direction, for headers in layouts, for creative art projects and poetry, and for teaching different languages at the same time, will all have the need for a choice...but we will default to writing vertically since that is what Deaf people have requested of us, and when writing sign language, without any comparison to any other language, it gives us the most accurate grammar features that no other direction can give us, because of the 3 Lanes...those are invaluable...

A lot to program and so many different worlds to please...;-))

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