how to order sign in SL dictionary - need link to paper

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Mon Feb 14 11:32:03 UTC 2011

Dear Honza,

I wrote you back extensively.

If you go to the SignPuddle and press "search by symbol", you will get a default 
order by either handshape, movement, or facial expression.

Using handshape as the primary, I order by handshape by using the ordering 
portion of the signpuddle in each sign.  This is a manual process so you can 
choose what order you want the "Sign Spelling" to appear in.

If you press symbol frequency, all the signs come up by use of handshape, and 
whatever order YOU have imposed. 

I am working on the Brazilian and Ethiopian signpuddles to ensure a uniformity 
of sign order. 

Valerie should have a link to the order I worked with in Brazil in 2001, which 
is the only one that I have seen that has been documented down to the movement 
level. This entire field is brand new so you have every right to work with your 
deaf population and discover what best works for you.

Valerie's system and mine are very close.  

She can put my link on line to you with my 10 page paper on ordering signs.

Charles Butler

From: Honza <honza at RUCE.CZ>
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 5:24:57 AM
Subject: Re: how to order sign in SL dictionary

Hello everyone.

I haven't got any response. Does not anyone have any experience with this task?


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Honza <honza at> wrote:

Hello everyone,
>I wonder how to order signs in SL dictionary in the part SL to spoken language.
>In spoken language it is common to order signs in order of alphabeth, but what 
>about the another direction?
>In this part SL to spoken language it is common to order signs by hanshapes, but 
>in which order?
>Does anybody have any experineces with this order? I know that in US it is used 
>number order (as groups in SignPuddle).
>thanks for your advices.
>Honza, Czech Republic
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