AW: News handshapes in Brazilian Sign Language (LSB/Libras)

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Nov 15 23:16:53 UTC 2011

Stephen, I like your consistency with the index finger and the pinky. 

Charles Butler

chazzer3332000 at


Clear writing moves business forward.

--- On Tue, 11/15/11, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GOOGLEMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GOOGLEMAIL.COM>
Subject: AW: News handshapes in Brazilian Sign Language (LSB/Libras)
Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:36 PM


“There is a second way of writing this, but if you are
happy with this I am too …smile...” –  


Well I agree –  with a tiny difference – I would flip
the curved baby finger in position 2 (palm to the left and back of hand to the




Von: SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton

Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. November
2011 19:40


Betreff: Re: News handshapes in
Brazilian Sign Language (LSB/Libras) 


SignWriting List 

November 15, 2011 


Thank you for the attached photos and suggestions for hand symbols. As
you know, you are welcome to construct the hand symbols as they are needed,
within the ISWA 2010. If you are finding confusions in writing certain hand
symbols that are in the ISWA 2010, of course it is good that you tell us, and
go right ahead and do what you feel is best… Meanwhile others around the world
are already using the ISWA 2010 as it is, so it is not possible for us to stop
everyone from writing the way they choose, but I am fully in support of your
efforts to improve your writing of your sign languages… 


So in this discussion, I am only observing what you are telling us…but
not standing in judgement, since I have learned through experience that the
hand symbols will never be finished. There are too many possible variations of
hand positions and palm facings, for us to have ALL of them for writing every
sign language in the world…so please know I am happy that you are sharing with
us, and if we can read what you wrote, that is all that matters... 


Regarding Picture 1 below, with the Index Finger and Little Finger bent
- I know other sign languages need this hand symbol too. And I can read how you
constructed the symbols. So this fine. I can read it. There is a second way of
writing this, but if you are happy with this I am too …smile... 







On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Madson Barreto wrote: 


Please look these pictures of handshapes. Note that for each one
these we have a suggestion of writing in others handshapes. 


- The picture “1” is the union of 01-01-007 (ISWA code) and

- The picture “2” rememb me 01-08-018; 

- The picture “4” is the union of handshapes 01-01-003 and
01-05-008. It seems with 01-01-003. 

- The picture “5” is the union of 01-06-013 [ I ] and 01-10-004
[A]. The handshape “5” is very alike to the 01-06-021 [Y]. Here in Brazil
usually use it but it is very seems with 01-06-021 [Y]. I see that many people
use it in dactylology (spelling) 01-10-004 for [A] and 01-09-019 for [G]. The
handshape 01-06-021 is a different picture of “5”. 



We intent include the handshape 1,2,3,4 and 5 them in ISWA and
disclose this here in Brazil for use of the 01-09-019 and 01-10-004, stop using
01-09-018 and 01-10-003 because they cause confusion in the writing of
handshape “5”. 



Eagerly await your reply, 

Madson and Raquel Barreto 



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