Sign languages are written languages now ;-)

Thu Nov 10 19:17:28 UTC 2011

SignWriting List
November 10, 2011

Hello Stefan and Charles and everyone!

Thank you for this nice message. Yes, we can write enormous detail...and why not? The human body can move in so many unique ways, and communication requires it, and requires flexibility for writers - Years ago I used to try to "prove" that SignWriting could write it all - I was young and needed to establish the SignWriting script in the world - But after seeing so many beautiful documents - literally thousands of them - over so many years...in different writing styles from different countries and cultures and languages - how can anyone doubt that we can write sign languages? Sign languages are written languages now, and it is just a matter of time before the rest of the world realizes it...

Thanks for all your hard work and documents!

Val ;-)

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On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:

> Hi Valerie,
> thank you very much for your answer – it is exactly what I had in mind.
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> So it would be interesting to see the original  “Roubarse – sign performance”
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> ... and by the way isn’t it fantastic that we even can distinguish between such neat  differences in the performance of a sign. I love it. It is a kind of typical – almost provocative question from people who doubt that if we want ... we can!! Of course we can. ... smile
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> Stefan
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> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2011 19:48
> An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
> Betreff: Re: AW: Query - Duplication arc
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> SignWriting List
> November 10, 2011
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> Hi Stefan and Charles -
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> Oh. I see. I would read your writing, Stefan, as doing the right side, then doing the left side then doing the right side then doing the left side.
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> I would read Charles's writing as "doing two movements of the tongue on the right side, and then doing two movements of the tongue on the left side...
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> I thought that was what Charles wanted - 
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> There really is no need for the Uneven Alternating Dynamics Symbol - Stefan is correct about that - I know I wouldn't use it - but on the other hand it is not wrong really if you do one side twice, and then the other side twice -
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> Val ;-)
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> On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
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> Hi Charles, Valerie ,
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> just for fun and it is interesting to discuss this sign –
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> well I do not know what you want to do with your tongue –but if I assume to move it from the right punched out cheek to the opposite one several times – I  would prefer a different spelling.
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> I am interested in your opinion Valerie. Is it your understanding that both spelling describe the same performance? I would not think so.
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> Stefan
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> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2011 18:57
> An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
> Betreff: Re: Query - Duplication arc
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> SignWriting List
> November 10, 2011
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> See Val's answer below...
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> Charles wrote:
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>> Does the duplication arc work for a non-manual sign? 
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>> This is Roubarse from the LIBRAS puddle. The tongue sweeps from one punched out cheek to the opposite one several times for this sign for "robbed" 
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>> Charles Butler
>> chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
>> 240-764-5748
>> Clear writing moves business forward.
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> Hello Charles and Everyone -
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> Yes. It does. It means you do the right side first in your example, because we are reading vertically top sign first...and then the left side happens second in your diagram - Attached is information about the dynamics symbol called "Un-Even Alternating Dynamics" ...
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> Read about it on this web page:
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> Movement Dynamics
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/lessonsw/169 Dynamics.html
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> Val ;-)
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