AW: AW: Query - Duplication arc

Thu Nov 10 20:01:58 UTC 2011

On Roubarse, I'm looking for repeated performance in a cycle (minimum two) but the whole cycle repeated. The Dictionary illustration only shows one cheek, the demonstration I saw in Brazil and multiple performances on both sides, this was my compromise. 

Charles Butler

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--- On Thu, 11/10/11, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GOOGLEMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GOOGLEMAIL.COM>
Subject: AW: AW: Query - Duplication arc
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 2:06 PM

Hi Valerie,  

thank you very much for your
answer – it is exactly what I had in mind.  

So it would be interesting
to see the original  “Roubarse – sign performance”

... and by the way isn’t it fantastic that we even can
distinguish between such neat  differences in the performance of a sign. I love
it. It is a kind of typical – almost provocative question from people who doubt
that if we want ... we can!! Of course we can. ... smile  

Stefan  

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November
2011 19:48

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Duplication arc 

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November 10, 2011 

Hi Stefan and Charles - 

Oh. I see. I would read your writing, Stefan, as doing the right side,
then doing the left side then doing the right side then doing the left side. 

I would read Charles's writing as "doing two movements of the
tongue on the right side, and then doing two movements of the tongue on the
left side... 

I thought that was what Charles wanted -  

There really is no need for the Uneven Alternating Dynamics Symbol -
Stefan is correct about that - I know I wouldn't use it - but on the other hand
it is not wrong really if you do one side twice, and then the other side twice
- 

Val ;-) 

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On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: 

Hi Charles, Valerie , 

just for fun and it is
interesting to discuss this sign – 

well I do not know what
you want to do with your tongue –but if I assume to move it from the right punched
out cheek to the opposite one several times – I  would prefer a different
spelling. 

I am interested in your opinion Valerie. Is it your
understanding that both spelling describe the same performance? I would not
think so. 

Stefan 

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Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im
Auftrag von Valerie
Sutton

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2011 18:57

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SignWriting List 

November 10, 2011 

See Val's answer below... 

Charles wrote: 

  Does the duplication
  arc work for a non-manual sign?  

  This is Roubarse from the LIBRAS puddle. The tongue sweeps from one punched out
  cheek to the opposite one several times for this sign for "robbed"  

  Charles Butler

  chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com

  240-764-5748

  Clear writing moves business forward. 

------------- 

Hello Charles and Everyone - 

Yes. It does. It means you do the right side first in your example,
because we are reading vertically top sign first...and then the left side
happens second in your diagram - Attached is information about the
dynamics symbol called "Un-Even Alternating Dynamics" ... 

Read about it on this web page: 

Movement Dynamics 

http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/lessonsw/169
Dynamics.html 

Val ;-) 

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