AW: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!

Thu Oct 13 16:59:05 UTC 2011

Hi Valerie, 

... and not to forget the great efforts and achievements of  Lars Majewski
who developed SignWriter Python

Stefan ;-)

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[mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011 17:32
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SignWriting List

October 13, 2011

Just a quick note here - 

Jonathan, you are doing an excellent job with your current program, and when
you do have time, you have (and everyone has) Richard Gleaves' and my full
permission to use our old source code for SignWriter DOS, to re-implement
the software in modern operating systems...We would love that.

The old sources are on the web for download and have been for over a decade.
They are in Microsoft Pascal...a very old version. Here are the download
pages:

There are three download pages, which include downloads for SignWriter Java
too...

http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/sw50/download/download01.html

http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/sw50/download/download02.html

http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/sw50/download/download03.html

The SignWriter DOS source code is number 7 on the page 2 -

There is also a wonderful program called SignWriter Tiger that is actually
close to being both a re-construction of SignWriter DOS plus a way to write
in vertical columns - it was developed by Daniel Noelpp Ly and he has left
his sources online for download - if anyone would be willing to finish that
program that would be a blessing as well...

SignWriter Tiger

http://www.signwriter.org/

It was so close to being finished and then he could no longer work on it and
so it sits there, waiting for a savior!

smile -

No matter what, we look forward to using SignWriter Studio, which is
uniquely your own and that is important too...

Val ;-)

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On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Jonathan wrote:

Hi Charles,
    I just tried out SignWriter DOS to see exactly what you are talking
about.   I see you can type right over a sign if you want to, below, above
and if you type a long sentence the other signs move over.  Is it important
for you that the be place on top of the signs too?  Or is it more important
for you to be able to write some text, then some signs, then some text, etc?
    Had I realized that so many just LOVE the old SignWriter Dos I may have
gotten permission to duplicate it very faithfully.  With SignWriter Studio
some things may be similar but none are identical.  Right now I am trying to
get the three main parts of the program working, the dictionary ( I will
soon have a preview version available), the signlist (for printing lists of
signs from the dictionary) and the document.   Once I get everything working
again after changing to ISWA 2010 and a new database, I am interested in
implement a keyboard like SignWriter DOS.  But first things first.
    The document isn't functional right now.  Also it only deals with
vertical columns of writing for the time being.  It can have text above the
sign up to the width of the sign, then it wraps onto more lines.  At present
there isn't any way of writing just text without a sign but it shouldn't be
too hard to implement.   The editing of the signs is done in a popup box
instead of directly in the document like SignWriter DOS.  A lot of thought
has been put into it to use the keyboard but it may need a few more
adjustments yet.

Thank you for sharing this important feature with me and list.

Jonathan

On 10/10/2011 9:48 AM, Charles Butler wrote: 

Jonathan, What I really want is SignWriter DOS on a modern system.

In that program you could interleave written alphabets and sign writing.
Clunky, but effective.

You could clip signs from a narrative and put them somewhere else.

It was a true typing system for signing so that you could assemble a sign by
typing on a keyboard not a mouse. Yes, I know that the current encoding of
the ISWA is dependent upon a linking of graphemes and coding equivalents.

None of the Studios or other efforts have gone back to actual interleaved
Spoken Language and Signed Language.  I can clip a sign and put it in here

<http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/glyphogram.php?ksw=AS15a30S15a30S2ea3
aS2ea4eS2fb04M30x28S15a30n24xn28S15a309xn28S2ea3a5x3S2ea4en30x3S2fb04n6x22>
, in TEXT, when does THAT come back in a program. I feel like we are
continuing to take a great leap backward. Until one can type or easily
assemble, one can't' send email that is in sign language with a spoken
language. IF Chinese can do it, I am disappointed in every Sign Writing
compiler on the market that can't interleave. 

Charles Butler

This is an email program and I can do that, but the SW studio and all other
programs do not do that. 

Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
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