Advanced searching for symbols and their approximate locations

Wed Oct 12 16:18:34 UTC 2011

That was something that was added a few updates ago. (I think with the new 1.6 version.) There is a button called "Copy Sign From SignText". This will allow you to copy a sign to a SignPuddle from SignText.

Adam

On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Curious on this search example that I the translation of the Bible shows "harvest" at least three times, yet that sign for harvest is not currently in the ASL puddle, except an entry that I put in, using a C sign and not the open wedge. Is there a way now to clip signs out of the Bible passage and put them into the ASL signpuddle? 
> 
> Charles Butler
> chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/12/11, Steve Slevinski <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET> wrote:
> 
> From: Steve Slevinski <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET>
> Subject: Advanced searching for symbols and their approximate locations
> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
> Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 12:00 PM
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I've added a new feature to SignPuddle: advanced symbol searching.  It is flexible and it is fast.  It searches both individual signs and sign texts. There are 5 new possible searches you can perform: 4 available for sign entries, and a separate custom search.
> 
> The four sign entry searches
> ------------------------
> ==Search Location - Exact==
> Find signs that are exactly the same.  Same symbols, same exact position.  
> 
> ==Search Location - Approximate==
> Find signs that are approximately the same.  Same exact symbols, approximate locations.  The search location for each symbol uses a range of values.  These values are based on the symbol position relative to the sign's center.
> 
> ==Search Symbols - Exact==
> Find signs that have the exact same symbols.  Location is ignored.
> 
> ==Search Symbols - Base==
> Find signs that contain the same base symbols.  Fills and rotations are ignored.
> 
> 
> For sign entries, these 4 search links are available.  Let's consider the entry for "season" in ASL:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=1309
> 
> 
> Staying in the ASL dictionary puddle, a search for an exact sign match, will only find the entry for season.
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&ksw=M16x24S1fb20n1xn23S15a18n15xn24S2e7001xn1
> 
> Searching for approximate locations will find 2 entries:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS1fb20499x477S15a18485x476S2e700501x499
> 
> Searching for the exact same symbols, ignoring location, will still only find 2 entries:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS15a18uuuxuuuS1fb20uuuxuuuS2e700uuuxuuu
> 
> Searching for the base symbols, ignoring location, will find 5 different entries:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS15auuuuuxuuuS1fbuuuuuxuuuS2e7uuuuuxuuu
> 
> 
> If we return to "season" and select the Search Location - Approximate link, we are given the option to search a different puddle:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/signsearch.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS1fb20499x477S15a18485x476S2e700501x499
> 
> If we select the ASL Bible puddle ,  we will find 6 different signs that look very similar to the sign for "season", but they have different strings.  One of the entries was used 38 times, the other entries were only used once each.  If we click on the sign that was used 38 times, we will view all of the signs or sign texts that used this exact sign:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=28&ksw=M16x24S1fb20n1xn23S15a18n15xn24S2e7001xn1
> 
> This last page takes a few seconds to load due to all of the column images that are downloading.
> 
> 
> Custom Symbol Search
> -------------------
> The 5th search is the revamped "Search by Symbols".
> 
> 
> The first thing you'll notice is the new cross-hairs in the center.  These are used to specify the position of each symbol.  Different positions have different results.
> 
> 
> Searching for the index above the center:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS10000493x459
> 
> 
> Searching for the index below the center:
> http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS10000489x506
> 
> 
> 
> You can search for more than 1 symbol.  Each symbol can have 1 of 4 different types of symbol match.  The default for each symbol is the "Exact Match", which matches the base, fill, and rotation.  The "Any Match" matches the symbol base only.  The "Fill Match" will match the fill (palm facing), but ignore the rotation.  The "Rotation Match" will match the exact rotation,but ignore the fill.
> 
> 
> Reflections
> ---------
> Searching was one of the last barriers to being able to efficiently process the SignWriting script.  This new searching technique uses relatively simple regular expressions.  It is easy to code and fast to execute.  No matter the programming language or the device, real searching of the SignWriting script is now a reality.
> 
> Most importantly, this technique does not require artificial restrictions on the SignWriting script.
> 
> Regards,
> -Steve

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