Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Sun Oct 16 13:02:44 UTC 2011
Ditto, the first question I was asked in Brazil was how to write two signs whose only difference was a facial expression.
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.
--- On Sun, 10/16/11, Ingvild Roald <iroald at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
From: Ingvild Roald <iroald at HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 8:36 AM
Another good thing about the DOS-program was the possibility to write the mouthed 'words' near the mouth, rather than using the later invention of Mundbildschrift', for those signed languages that use a lot of mouthing in the signs. Norwegian SL uses mouthing a lot, especially for nouns. Signs that are the same in the hands and other movements, differ in the mouthing and make distinctive signs that way. NSL claims to have no homonyms (two or more signs that look exatly the same but have different meaning) because of this.
Ingvild
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:03:24 -0700
From: chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Part of it is to understand that many educational systems use Sign Writing to show the grammar comparing a local sign language to the local spoken language.
The useful thing about SW Dos is that one can use the spoken language, the signed language, and fingerspelling so that one can compare gramatically, very similar to the current German system.
Thank you for your attention. Charles
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, Jonathan <duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA> wrote:
From: Jonathan <duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA>
Subject: Re: Please help us test SignWriter Studio Beta 5!!
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 11:09 AM
Hi Charles,
I just tried out SignWriter DOS to see exactly what you are
talking about. I see you can type right over a sign if you want
to, below, above and if you type a long sentence the other signs
move over. Is it important for you that the be place on top of the
signs too? Or is it more important for you to be able to write some
text, then some signs, then some text, etc?
Had I realized that so many just LOVE the old SignWriter Dos I
may have gotten permission to duplicate it very faithfully. With
SignWriter Studio some things may be similar but none are
identical. Right now I am trying to get the three main parts of the
program working, the dictionary ( I will soon have a preview version
available), the signlist (for printing lists of signs from the
dictionary) and the document. Once I get everything working again
after changing to ISWA 2010 and a new database, I am interested in
implement a keyboard like SignWriter DOS. But first things first.
The document isn't functional right now. Also it only deals
with vertical columns of writing for the time being. It can have
text above the sign up to the width of the sign, then it wraps onto
more lines. At present there isn't any way of writing just text
without a sign but it shouldn't be too hard to implement. The
editing of the signs is done in a popup box instead of directly in
the document like SignWriter DOS. A lot of thought has been put
into it to use the keyboard but it may need a few more adjustments
yet.
Thank you for sharing this important feature with me and list.
Jonathan
On 10/10/2011 9:48 AM, Charles Butler wrote:
Jonathan, What I
really want is SignWriter DOS on a modern system.
In that program you could interleave written alphabets and
sign writing. Clunky, but effective.
You could clip signs from a narrative and put them
somewhere else.
It was a true typing system for signing so that you could
assemble a sign by typing on a keyboard not a mouse. Yes,
I know that the current encoding of the ISWA is dependent
upon a linking of graphemes and coding equivalents.
None of the Studios or other efforts have gone back to
actual interleaved Spoken Language and Signed Language. I
can clip a sign and put it in here
, in TEXT, when does THAT come back in a program. I feel
like we are continuing to take a great leap backward.
Until one can type or easily assemble, one can't' send
email that is in sign language with a spoken language. IF
Chinese can do it, I am disappointed in every Sign Writing
compiler on the market that can't interleave.
Charles Butler
This is an email program and I can do that, but the SW
studio and all other programs do not do that.
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.
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