Greetings from Egypt!

Thu Apr 19 11:30:25 UTC 2012

One thing I forgot to ask: Does anyone know if there's an accepted
abbreviation for Egyptian Sign Language?  EgSL, perhaps?  (Analogous to
Arabic Sign Language being referred to as ArSL.)  If there is a list of
accepted names and abbreviations you could refer us to, that would be
awesome.
Many thanks!
-Ryan

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ryan Fan <ryanfan42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Val!
> Thanks for referring me to the research and the Saudi Arabian SignPuddle.
>  I'm sure it will be an interesting comparison in terms of signs and SW
> conventions.  I'll try to add an English, Modern Standard Arabic (MSA), and
> Egyptian Arabic gloss for each sign, if available.
>
> An important thing to keep in mind about Arabic: "Arabic" is an umbrella
> term for many different stratified and overlapping spoken languages.  (This
> is an oversimplification; we can discuss in more depth later.)  Many native
> speakers are not able to actively distinguish features of their spoken
> variety and other varieties, including the MSA used in literature.  The
> same appears to hold true for perceptions of the distinction between
> Egyptian Sign and what I've seen in Egypt referred to as simply "Arabic
> Sign."  Hopefully, some of the data collection I'm trying to do will shed
> more light on this subject from a Sign perspective.
>
> Thanks again, and keep on dancing!
> -Ryan
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> April 18, 2012
>>
>> Hello Ryan!
>> Thank you for your correspondence today, and for adding signs to the
>> Egyptian SignPuddle Dictionary, which has been close to empty for several
>> years, waiting for someone to take interest in writing Egyptian Sign
>> Language…
>>
>>
>> Egyptian SignPuddle
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=84
>>
>>
>> So it was only natural for me, when I saw your message and some of the
>> signs you have written in SignPuddle, that I danced around my office -
>> because I did! Good news is a good reason to dance…smile...
>>
>> We will benefit from learning about Arabic, linguistics, Egypt and
>> Egyptian Sign Language, so feel free to inform us… It sounds like you are
>> doing interesting research and we look forward to learning more about it -
>>
>> Have you read some of Dr. Mohamed AbuShaira's research on SignWriting in
>> Deaf Education in Jordan and Saudi Arabia? It is in Arabic...
>>
>> http://www.signwriting.org/arabia/
>>
>> Have you seen the Saudi Arabian SignPuddle in Arabic?
>>
>> Saudi Arabian SignPuddle
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=91
>>
>> Several countries will benefit from an Arabic User Interface in
>> SignPuddle, so thank you for offering to help with that -
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> ---------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Ryan Fan wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> My name's Ryan, and I'm trying to start work on the Egyptian SignPuddle,
>> slowly transferring signs from my notebook onto the SignPuddle database.
>>  In
>> truth, I'm rather new to SignWriting, and how my studies have led me to
>> this
>> juncture is a bit of a long story.
>>
>> In short, I have limited experience with ASL from grade school hymns and
>> a
>> high school ASL club many years ago.  My undergraduate work focused on
>> mathematics and linguistics, as well as Arabic.  I've been living in
>> Egypt for the
>> past couple years, studying Arabic while searching for a place to learn
>> Egyptian
>> Sign Language.  The bureaucracy here is something of a tortuous and
>> torturous
>> labyrinth, especially for foreigners, and I only managed to start
>> attending
>> weekly Egyptian Sign classes this Spring, mere months before my departure
>> to
>> start a graduate program in Arabic Linguistics back in the US.  I hope to
>> return
>> relatively frequently (in intervals of ~6-12 months) for documentation
>> and
>> research on both spoken Egyptian Arabic and Egyptian Sign.
>>
>> Reading over Val's warm/dancing welcome to my inquiry and seeing some of
>> the
>> archived emails, I'm grateful to be part of such a supportive and
>> inquisitive
>> community!  Please feel free to contact me via email should you feel the
>> strong
>> and sudden urge to discuss anything pertaining to Arabic, linguistics,
>> Egypt,
>> signing, any combination of those, or anything else, really.  Thanks!
>> -Ryan
>>
>>
>> ------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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