How to write this?

[Charles Butler]

Honza, commenting on your original writing. 

Hmm. I feel a slight circle in movement. The problem with your writing, Honza, is that you are using right hand arrows on both hands. 

Look at the screen. The arrow on the left should have a white arrow, not a black arrow. I like your use of the ~ for pressing forward as that's how it felt to me, more of a press than a movement. The movement tracing feels like a loop forward at the end, that's why I wrote what felt like a twirl on the movement up for forward. 

I'm intrigued by the hand shape you use as the finger and thumb touch each other, and you have written a curlicue. 
 
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.


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 From: Honza <honza at RUCE.CZ>
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: How to write this?
 

Hello Charles, Adam and Val,

Charles, the movement forward is not cyrcle. It is only forward and back going to another location. 
Maybe the Adam's writing is better. Val I am not sure if it is possible to use twirl instead of movement forward, for me it would be clearer and I see that two-bend symbol is necessary because movement is alternating. First hand then another then another... Without both hand will move in the same time. 
What do you think about my origin writing (now enclosed)

Thank you for suggestions. 
I'll ask also my team about their opinion on your writing and mine. But now I see that my writing is not right. 

Honza


On 20 June 2012 17:35, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:

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>Hello Honza, Charles and Adam -
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>I like your writings too… Question: Do you feel this symbol is necessary? It states that one hand does a movement, and then the other, and then the other, and then the other… not sure if it is necessary...
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>On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Charles Butler wrote:
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>I like this. 
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>>Charles Butler
>>chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
>>240-764-5748
>>Clear writing moves business forward.
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>> From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
>>To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:10 AM
>>Subject: Re: How to write this?
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>>Ok. Then this is how I would write this sign.
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>>Adam
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>>On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:37 AM, Honza wrote:
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>>Hello Adam and Charles,
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>>>the movement is not scrict. So can be circle (with movements forward and back).
>>>Do you think is it possible to write it down using this ~ ?
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>>>Thanks, Honza
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>>>On 19 June 2012 19:05, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>It feels like two dots and then the hands go in circles slightly outward. It's like I'm counting something and then make a circle ... and so forth. 
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>>>>Charles Butler
>>>>chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
>>>>240-764-5748
>>>>Clear writing moves business forward.
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>>>> From: Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
>>>>To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:02 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: How to write this?
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>>>>Let me see if I am reading the movement right. The "F handshape" is at half black-half white fill alternating with right and left moving forward in a horizontal line outward (right for the right hand and left for the left hand) repeated three times. The third time the hands move out is what confuses me because it isn't along the line with the right hand up higher and the left hand down lower while both are inward rather than outward. Would the sign be understood if it were to continue following the outward path?
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>>>>Adam
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>>>>On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Honza wrote:
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>>>>> Hello everyone and especially Val,
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>>>>> can you help me how to write this czech sign?
>>>>> Movement is a little bit complicate. I tried it somehow, and I can show you, but later.
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>>>>> Thank you for help.
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>>>>> Honza
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