Terminology - your advice?

Wadde9 wadde9 at AOL.COM
Wed Aug 14 01:51:52 UTC 2013


My name is Deborah Waddell.  I am an ASL student at The Crown College of the Bible in Knoxville, TN.

First of all, I want to tell you how greatful I am that I stumbled upon SignWriting.  I am studying to become a Bible Translator for the Deaf around the world and I am seriously considering using SignWriting in my translation work.  

I have been observing this forum for a long time by means of email and I am excited to see so much open debate and dialogue.  Truely, SignWriting is a bigger than any one of us.  

That being said, ASL is a completely seperate language (as you know).  My question to you is, do you also mean to ask what is the best way to direct someone to read the SignPuddle in ASL or are you only asking how to express this in English?  You have a few responses which answer this question from an English perspective, but if you intended to ask also for the ASL perspective, I would be happy to inquire with the Deaf Community to give you some feedback.  I'm asking because I wasn't clear on which you were asking.

Also, I have a question for you.  Does anyone ever offer classes on SignWriting on the east coast?  I am interested in taking a class next summer but the distance to California and the expense of the trip might be too much for me right now.

God Bless! 

Deborah Waddell

wadde9 at aol.com
(865) 216-7909

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Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


online is a state ... you are online 
the web are those websites that start with www typically, they are the ones you use a browser for
the internet is both the infrastructure that connects computers through an open connection and it is loosely the same as the web except that there are more services that use Internet protocols that are NOT websites.`

I hope this is a bit clear.

On 12 August 2013 21:03, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting List
August 12, 2013

Question for everyone…

I am trying to update my terminology…

What is the difference between these three terms?  Online…Internet….Web

For example, when a document is "on the web", is that the same as "reading a document online"?

Is an Online Course the same as a Course on the Web, or a Course on the Internet?

I looked some of this up on Google, and some of the answers I got are pasted below, but I am still not sure…

When I want to direct someone to read a document in SignPuddle Online….is that a document on the web? a document online? or a document on the internet?


and when people offer courses online, are they really on the web? or are they in something else other than HTML? what happens if it is PHP? is that on the web? 

smile …

Anyone have a quick explanation understood by all? ;-)

Val ;-)


Google searching...

Answer: The Internet and the World Wide Web have a whole-to-part relationship. The Internet is the large container, and the Web is a part within the container. It is common in daily conversation to abbreviate them as the "Net" and the "Web", and then swap the words interchangeably. But to be technically precise, the Net is the restaurant, and the Web is the most popular dish on the menu. 

Here is the detailed explanation: 

1: The Internet is a Big Collection of Computers and Cables. 

The Internet is named for "interconnection of computer networks". It is a massive hardware combination of millions of personal, business, and governmental computers, all connected like roads and highways. The Internet started in the 1960's under the original name "ARPAnet". ARPAnet was originally an experiment in how the US military could maintain communications in case of a possible nuclear strike. With time, ARPAnet became a civilian experiment, connecting university mainframe computers for academic purposes. As personal computers became more mainstream in the 1980's and 1990's, the Internet grew exponentially as more users plugged their computers into the massive network. Today, the Internet has grown into a public spiderweb of millions of personal, government, and commercial computers, all connected by cables and by wireless signals. 

No single person owns the Internet. No single government has authority over its operations. Some technical rules and hardware/software standards enforce how people plug into the Internet, but for the most part, the Internet is a free and open broadcast medium of hardware networking.

Here is a conceptual diagram of the Internet and how it contains many forms of online communications 

2: The Web Is a Big Collection of HTML Pages on the Internet.

The World Wide Web, or "Web" for short, is a massive collection of digital pages: that large software subset of the Internet dedicated to broadcasting content in the form of HTML pages. The Web is viewed by using free software called web browsers. Born in 1989, the Web is based on hypertext transfer protocol, the language which allows you and me to "jump" (hyperlink) to any other public web page. There are over 65 billion public web pages on the Web today.

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