AW: Discussion on slow close of hand.

[Charles Butler]

The hand's position is in front of the face, not beside it, so putting the finger closings any closer would obscure the fact that it really is in front of the face. It is one movement, the hand bending to the left and the fingers closing one-by-one. The fingers close as the hand turns so I don't see how to separate out what is a single motion. We will talk but it still is one complex motion. 


Charles Butler

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--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at MAC.COM> wrote:

From: Valerie Sutton <signwriting at MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: AW: Discussion on slow close of hand.
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 5:37 PM

SignWriting ListFebruary 13, 2013
The symbol is showing which finger closes first, second and third and has nothing to do with other movement such as wrist movement or arm movement…so the arrow has nothing to do with twists…it just shows which fingers close in which sequence…
If you need to really see the ending position that twists, then why not write a beginning and ending hand position, showing the ending handshape in the twisted or angled position that you feel it needs to be?…I would write two hand symbols, one for the beginning and one for the ending…
And the dot by dot symbol can be placed closer to the fingers in the beginning 5 hand - We can talk about it when we Skype later -
Val ;-)
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On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
And yet, intuitively, the hand itself bends counter-clockwise (following the direction of the arrow) as the fingers close clockwise. How does one show the counter-wrist bend of the hand for a complete movement? 





Charles Butler

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240-764-5748

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--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE> wrote:

From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>
Subject: AW: Discussion on slow close of hand.
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 5:07 PM






 









Hi Charles,   
yes I would prefer your
second spelling showing the pinky being the first to close.  
Stefan   
 







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2013 22:47

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Betreff: Discussion on slow close
of hand. 

  
 


 
  Here is how I wrote "linda" (beautiful) in
  LIBRAS. From the videos, I'm apparently writing in backward if I intend to
  show the smaller finger being the first to close. 

  

  linda
  (beautiful) LIBRAS

  

  From the video, it should be shown like this. Is this correct? 

  

  

  

  

  

  Charles Butler

  chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com

  240-764-5748

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